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02 Jul 2023 11:28:52
If we sell Jota for the 25 to 30 million mark and bring in the lad Tete from Shaktar for the nominal fee reported that's a great piece of business from the club .

I would also love the rumours to be true we are back in for Vinicius Souza big strong unit we have all been wanting in the middle of the park .

Mick87

 

 

03 Mar 2023 11:19:46
Ed have you heard anything about bernabei wanting out and not settling in well?

Mick87

{Ed007's Note - No, Mick I haven't}


1.) 04 Mar 2023 19:42:55
I hadn't heard anything about it but if it's true then I imagine Ange's response would be something like,
'If he doesn't want to be here then we'll thank him for his effort and move him on'. HH.


 

 

25 Jan 2023 13:25:16
Edd have you heard anything regarding Abada? Heard he has a release clause nowhere near his value and Celtic scrambling about trying to get him on a new deal as lots of interest from the premier league.

Mick87

{Ed007's Note - I said last week when discussing McKay's potential balls-ups regarding contracts that both Kyogo and Abada were also signed on his watch, I wasn't worried about Kyogo but the Abada one might be a problem.}


1.) 25 Jan 2023 14:01:58
Sorry I missed that Ed . There might be a bit of truth in it then hopefully we get him tied down on a new contract . The guy who mentioned it is a football agent and said serious interest from Crystal Palace in particular . Usually when someone mentions a rumour I take it with a pinch a salt but he did seem adamant so thought I would ask the question ?.

{Ed007's Note - Without putting the cat amongst the pigeons, last year Abada changed agents from Dudu Dahan to Hussein Al Gaaod - the same agent Juranovic switched to.}


2.) 25 Jan 2023 17:32:43
Hopefully he's happy here and will pen a new deal but if its JJs agent we may be screwed again by McKays incompetence.


 

 

02 Jul 2022 14:55:17
Ed have you heard of any interest in Micky Van De veen? I know nothing about the lad but from what I was told he could be exactly what we are looking for .

Mick87

{Ed037's Note - van de Van, A left footed ball playing Defender. He actually only signed for Wolfsburg from Wormer at the start of last season on a 4yr deal. Unfortunately for Micky he picked up a serious leg injury and only played 5 games in the season. 3 at the start of the season and the Last 2 games. Micky came out and said at the end of last season that he hopes to be fully fit for next season and restart his Wolfsburg career. Wolfsburg manager Niko Kovač an admire of of Van De Ven because he comfortable playing with the ball and suits his style. Valued at ard 5 million now I believe Micky, I don't think there will be any interest from Celtic here unfortunately. Wolfsburg manager Kovac wants to keep the young lad in Germany next season


 

 

21 Jun 2022 21:28:07
Ed is it looking like the lad Semedo is coming in? From what I have seen of him he looks bang average and nowhere near good enough to play champions league football.

Mick87

{Ed007's Note - Celtic are apparently close to finalising the deal for Semedo I mentioned yesterday, well sort of ? it's a years loan with an obligation to buy for €1.5 and I'm sure I said it was an option to buy.
I'll be honest, Mick I don't know much about the lad.}


1.) 21 Jun 2022 21:51:37
Surely there must be better out there ?. I have seen him a few times and he is like soro except more physical. I will give him a chance but not excited one bit about this one I can’t see him being anything more than a squad filler and I would rather give the game time to the young lad lawall.


2.) 22 Jun 2022 02:38:42
One thing I will say is big Ange knows how to pick a player the only exception is guchi but he hasn't had much of a chance to be fair .


3.) 22 Jun 2022 12:50:57
to me its like for like for nir bitton, big tall lad that can have a physical side to him but not better than what we have, mccarthy, gucci, who so far haven't shown anything and i wouldn't be surprised if they went, granted gucci hasn't had much chance but i think it was a mistake to get mccarthy in plus on a four yr deal so it could be hard to move him on, soro another that should be away and leave room for a more suitable player but whoever comes in they need to be better than the players above.


 

 

 

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02 Mar 2024 17:06:04
Tomorrow is now massive for us . We have to make it count and put them back in there place .

Mick87

1.) 02 Mar 2024 17:27:34
We can win this league. But keep our feet on the ground and win tomorrow for what will be a difficult game. Come on lads. All cup finals now. YNWA.


 

 

25 Feb 2024 10:34:14
We need to see a reaction today not just a result but a performance. The situation is what it is with the league, its self inflicted but we cannot let them stroll it we need to make them work for it .

It's a tough ask but we need to be near perfect for the remainder of the season and it all starts today. Today and the rest of the season will show who is fit to wear the jersey.

On a side note it wouldn't surprise me if we see kyogo playing off Idah off the left . Rodgers can't get a tune out kyogo through the middle and the wide men have been shocking and we know kyogo has played there before .

Mick87

1.) 25 Feb 2024 11:00:36
There’s no doubt Sevco have hit a purple patch but there will still be a few bumps before the end of the season.

Since losing to Celtic,
Sevco have scored the first goal in their last 9 league games which has resulted in 9 victories.
But they have lost 14 points this season after losing the first goal.
Celtic need to win today and hang in there.


2.) 25 Feb 2024 11:04:08
3 points are essential. Dare I be greedy and want a large win as well?

Will be a tough match with lots of dodgy challenges flying in to our players, that the ref won't punish.


3.) 25 Feb 2024 11:31:42
Back to playing 1 up front today
Maeda and Khun hopefully play at a high tempo on the wings and get a fecking decent few crosses in for a change for Kyogo coming in at pace to finish them off. After all the negativity let's see how the players react with todays performance. Were due one as it's been awful to watch lately. Im usually pessimistic but today I'm going for Kyogo hat trick.


 

 

31 Jan 2024 21:14:55
Can someone please educate me and tell me what the people in charge of our club are playing at? I just can't get my head around how it's gotten to this point, is it a complete dereliction of duties or is there something more going on behind the scenes? I have no idea and I think it's about time the board were transparent with us .

I get people saying they don't want any protests because they want us to focus our efforts on the the pitch but unfortunately we have one of the most passionate and emotional fan bases in the world and it will never happen, we are one bad result away from a total fan revolt.

Regardless of what transpires I hope we the fans finally take a stand and let this inept board know exactly what we think of them .

Mick87

1.) 31 Jan 2024 21:57:41
The Celtic Board love last day and last minute dramas and maybe tomorrow will be the same.

I’m the same as you and the majority of our fans,
It’s doesn’t make any sense.
Especially with them being business men and the prize on offer at the end of the season.


2.) 31 Jan 2024 22:19:25
I think if you forget they’re running a storied football club, and suppose for a minute they were running a tesco, you’d get the idea pretty quick. They have enough staff to cover the shifts and keep the franchise ticking over. The profit keeps ticking over; actually by all accounts their margin is excellent. So what’s the beef? Far from being always right the customers are irrelevant, or actually a bit of a feckin nuisance. The idea is to exploit them to the maximum possible extent possible, short of sending them round the corner to the next vendor of sporting excellence and cultural identity, but in this neck of the woods it’s a bit of a desert. They’re golden.


3.) 01 Feb 2024 11:31:19
Absolutely soot on.


 

 

28 Jan 2024 10:54:36
I see a lot of posts about booing but how do you let the players and the one's in charge at the club know you're not happy?

I seen it under Lennon when we where winning we all accepted the bad performances because we got the win but in reality all it was doing is papering over the cracks and eventually it caught up with us and it's like history repeating itself and that's why fans booed at full time nothing to do with being entitled or less a fan cause they didn't live through the bad times,

I am so frustrated at the moment with the way our club is being run and with what I see on the pitch . Standing still in football is going backwards and right now we are a club with no direction on or off park .

Mick87

1.) 29 Jan 2024 19:32:45
Mick surely we should move on . Our players don't deserve boos .
The Board can’t complain . If we want to show displeasure at Board, do so when players are not around . Isn’t there Board meetings when there is no football activity, let us do it. then .
If we start booing in front of team, we will become laughing stocks.

{Ed007's Note - Why should the board take the blame for the performance of players on the park? I'm assuming that's what the people who booed were booing or maybe it's just me that blames the players for their performances.
What can the board do to stop the mind-numbing passing from side to side, pass forward then back to CCV to pass to Scales, would signing a LB stop that, would signing an understudy to Kyogo make the team play quicker and more dynamic, maybe signing a new GK would help Kyogo be more clinical or for Palma to score a penalty?
Me personally would never boo a Celtic team that had won a game - and it would even need to be a really bad result for me to think about doing it - but I can understand people who have paid good money to travel to watch Celtic and have to witness such a gutless performance from a Celtic team.
The buck for Saturday's result and subsequent fall-out stop firmly at the feet of the players and Rodgers if that is the way he is telling them to play, which going by his words he isn't. He constantly talks about how we need to get the ball forward quicker etc so why are the players still allowing guys like CCV & Scales to be our playmakers and control the tempo of the game by passing it around between the backline and midfield?}


 

 

14 Jan 2024 12:29:04
I see a lot of people negative on here because the cost of a player and i get that to an extent but my biggest gripe is not the money we spend it's how we spend it. There is definitely flaws in our business model and it needs to evolve with the times because it worked 10 years ago doesn't mean it still going to work now and that goes for every aspect of the club. At the moment everything the club does always seems to be reactive and no forward thinking . Our strategy seems to be bring players in sell for a profit and just be happy to be ahead of the other lot and this is why we are stagnant and never going to do anything in Europe. As a club what is the strategy to take Celtic to the next level?

As for people who say they hate it when we refer to players as projects that's exactly what they are . We bring them in try and DEVELOP them, some work out and some don't these type of players in my eyes are projects.

Then we have players who are first team ready in my eyes this is players who are players who come in and straight away make the starting 11 stronger .

The biggest mistake we made is in the summer there was that we brought to many projects in and the so called first team ready players where not good enough and that lies with the board and our head of recruitment . Am I naive to think our business model doesn't hamper the type of player we go for no but until the model changes then we will always be a club in limbo going nowhere just happy to be the best in Scotland.

Mick87

1.) 14 Jan 2024 13:24:01
I agree with much you’ve said Mick.

The business ‘model’ if there is one has failed miserably for 20 years in Europe and good question about whether just staying one step of the Ragers is the benchmark for the Celtic board.

For many fans and some posters on here success is 11 titles in 12 years, 5 trebles etc. and the fact we didn’t die like the newest club in Glasgow so be happy with your lot. Is domestic success and being champions among the bums in Scotland the level of the club’s aspirations? If so at least be honest and tell us that. Bankier is on record as saying there was no point spending money to compete in Europe because we can’t. I don’t think the current board believe any different.

Any business being sold you’d want to see their Business Plan? Do Celtic have one? What are we trying to achieve here? It’s the CEOs job to dictate the general direction of travel. What is that? What’s the aims and objectives? He doesn’t even need to know how to get there he just needs to know where he’s going and that he’s got the right football and financial people around him that know how to get there. Does he and has he? Aims: are we aspiring to be a last 16 club although that’s no longer next year but is the aim to progress in Europe? Objectives: what’s the steps to be taken towards that objective? Are we going to buy 4 or 6 players with development potential and 2 or 4 seasoned professionals or bring 1 or 2 through the academy this year or whatever? What about next year? How long is it going to take to get to where we’re trying to go? What’s the plan? How are we going to measure our performance towards achieving these objectives so we know if we’re succeeding or failing? Who’s responsible for what aspect of the business? Basic stuff.

I just don’t see that level of foresight and ambition from the board. We’re a well run business but we’re not a well run football club. Even at that we’ve got £72 million in the bank because we put it there not because of anything special that Dermot Desmond, Peter or Mark Lawell or Michael Nicholson or Chris McKay have done. Rinse and repeat and recurring failure appears to be the plan. If I’m wrong where is the evidence to the contrary over the last 20 years?


2.) 14 Jan 2024 13:38:56
We could buy 2nd class players that are at the peak of their ability for £8 or £10 m. and they would be ready to go straight into team and do a job and there would be no negatives from supporters . Thing is this. fully developed player whilst doing a job for us, is very unlikely to reach the standards of some of the players we buy earlier on in their development. I am thinking of M O’R, Hatate, Jota, Kyogo, Maeda, Bernardo Scales none of which were fully developed European players& maybe u can add more .
I am no saying buying established players at peak is better or worse than buying players still in development stage . It is probably more difficult to select the right player in development, but if we get it right the rewards are better . I think it is more than a bit harsh to go full on against M L as he can’t be expected to build a top team from developing players immediately. Give him a wee bit of time and encouragement as we all want the one thing. 20yrs without European Success is hardly ML ‘s. fault and him only in position 20 mths.


3.) 14 Jan 2024 13:41:54
Few things I would like to point out.

When the club says they have 72 million in the bank, that does not mean we have 72 million to spend. In football the revenue is front loaded, with mostly money going out in the second part of the season, with little coming in. So that 72 million has to pay all our bills until we receive CL money and season ticket money at the end of the season.

I would also like to point out that it is stupidity from the board not to spend or invest the excess money, as we need to pay tax on profits.

With regards our business model, I have heard peter lawwell state on several occasions that our business model is based on domestic success and entry to group stage of Europa.

Therefore, my guess is the boards view and the fans view on Europe are different. Based on that I cannot see them spending large quantities on single transfers, as it is high risk that you won't make a profit or recoup the money. Very few players have been sold for 10 million or more and I don't think that will change anytime soon.


4.) 14 Jan 2024 14:10:35
Celtic calling your off your rocker if you think M L can carry on the way he is at the moment. The recruitment has been a shambles since he came in.


5.) 14 Jan 2024 14:41:58
Previously,
comments were described as opinions or debates but recently that’s changed to comments being called negative.
Why?


6.) 14 Jan 2024 15:34:02
Mick87, I get what you're saying. The recruitment since Lawwell Jr came in has been terrible but it's a long-standing issue that stretches back years. Lee Congerton and Nick Hammond were deemed as hopeless as well so, for me, that points to an issue with the whole system. When you recommend Ivan Toney but the club bring in Albian Ajeti what chance have you got?


7.) 14 Jan 2024 15:41:04
Buzz

I think it’s attributable to the new age positive thinking drum beaters no matter the objective evidence to the contrary that confuse realism with negativity.

I don’t hear the positivity I see here regarding the board many places.

Sometimes you’d swear it is nothing other than to be controversial or contrary.

Facts are facts and are neither possible or negative.


8.) 14 Jan 2024 16:11:52
Kevbhoy,
I picked out a team of players, who were brought into our club between Hammond leaving and Mark Lawwell starting.
Hart
Juranovic, CCV, Starfelt, Hatate
Abada, O’Riley, Maeda, Jota
Giakoumakis, Kyogo.

A medal should be given the the person/ people who were responsible for bringing in those players.


9.) 14 Jan 2024 16:32:17
There are some fantastic signings there and more that haven't made your XI but the money wasted on dross far outweighs that, unfortunately.


10.) 14 Jan 2024 16:33:32
Buzz

That’s some statement of fact.

Who was or were responsible?


11.) 14 Jan 2024 17:10:05
Sorry Buzz, I misread your post. We definitely had an excellent strike rate with Ange dictating a lot of the early recruitment. Although we were linked with Hart and CCV previously and I can't see him knowing too much about guys like Jota and O'Riley.


12.) 14 Jan 2024 17:43:43
We are talking about M L as if he was at fault. for our failings in Europe for the last 20 yrs . Anyone who holds Head of Recruitment responsible after 20 mths in job when we don’t know what he was asked to look for in players and who was instructing him and what budget he was given . I have no notion of the names he had recommended and Nicholson wasn’t able to sign them up . To my mind there is so much we don’t know and probably will never know, we would be off your rocker, if u terminate ML employment with our complete lack of knowledge of his working conditions. We have found out M L is far from the tea boy that one of our well known posters described and I don’t think corrected when he learned different.


13.) 14 Jan 2024 18:22:06
I still maintain Mark Lawwell was the Man City tea boy and he shouldn’t be anywhere near our head of recruitment position.
Loads of Celtic fans, maybe even the majority have the same opinion as myself.

I remember now where the recent negativity replaced opinions and debates. ?.


14.) 14 Jan 2024 19:06:07
Celtic Calling

If the Celtic board and Mark Lawell under the direction of Michael Nicholson as CEO aren’t responsible for the shambles our recruitment was in the summer transfer window who is?

Second, who said Mark Lawell was responsible for 20 years of European failure? The only person I’ve seen making that bizarre connection is you. You have an unquestionable ability to misinterpret other posters comments.

The Celtic board are responsible for 20 years of abject failure in Europe during which time our current chairman was CEO for 18 years and for a business model that from the evidence will only perpetuate that failure.


15.) 14 Jan 2024 20:37:27
I don’t think we will know how good a job ML has done for another 12/ 18 months. None of us know what constraints he is working under.

The Club improved our future in the summer window but did not improve the starting 11. The clubs business model is a very good one, Scouting the best up and coming talent and developing their potential. But that potential will need 12/ 18 months to develop into first team quality players.

Where the club fell asleep at the wheel was not bringing in another 3 players who were first team ready. Just hoping some of the new players will develop quickly.

With £72m in the bank we could have comfortably improved the first team by adding £4/ 5M to the yearly transfer out goings for the next 4 years.


16.) 14 Jan 2024 20:54:26
SoSBhOy

There’s more than a few contradictions in that post.

The clubs business model is a very good one but where the club fell asleep at the wheel was not bringing in another 3 players who were first team ready?

Chic Murray.

Could you tell me why this ‘very good’ business model has resulted in 20 years of European failure?


17.) 14 Jan 2024 21:00:18
The constraints that I can see that ML is under is that he is to find players that are around £3m price, upto age 24, will take anything below 15k in wages.

It is all very well bringing in players like me this if they are a successful, the problem is that most of them aren't and then we have a squad full of players that aren't good enough for the 1st team and definitely not good enough to play European football.


18.) 14 Jan 2024 23:51:20
I think Ange introduced a new recruitment model when he came as manager . The 20 yrs failure in Europe has nothing to do with the recruitment model we are currently using . Our failure in Europe is down to us not developing consistency losing and changing managers too often and as soon as a player reaches the ability to play in Europe he has been sold, that isn’t the recruitment team’s fault but a fault elsewhere in club . I think we could have a good European season next season, if we hold on to our recruitment policy, recruitment team, manager and all our quality players . If for example M O’R and Hatate were allowed to go, we won’t replace them with as good and we will be unsuccessful in Europe .
I have to defend myself by saying we have had numerous posts about recruitment and our recruitment team and in these posts failure in Europe was bought up before I mentioned .
Buzz bomb, I am sorry to say despite overwhelming evidence still maintains M L was tea boy at Man City . I suppose nothing should surprise me as after team was released one Saturday he said “ great bench “ when we didn’t win on the same day he ridiculed the bench . Nothing beats factual posts.


19.) 15 Jan 2024 02:50:20
Your writing Nonsense Celtic Trolling, I mean Calling.

It should be Twisted Old Man Chris. ?‍♂️

You come out with some kind of trolling between 11.30pm and midnight most nights.
It’s about time you got a grip.


20.) 15 Jan 2024 10:33:31
JFP it’s not a contradiction. If you read the post it say that the club has invested in our future but not the starting 11. The club can do positive and negative things without them contradicting.

I personally think that we signed quite a few players who will be 1st team regulars in the next 18 months.

I would expect at least 3/ 4 ofNawrocki, Yang, Holm and Tilio to be big parts of team in 12/ 18 months time with Palma already being a 1st team regular. I also think expect Bernardo to join permanently in the summer.

Celtic landing Mark Lawwel was a massive coupe for the club. But we can’t really judge his recruitment until it has had a chance to settle and develop. This isn’t the same recruitment team that was in place for the last 20 years.

The club chose not to invest in starting calibre players in the summer with only one signing ready to start in Palma.

We all know we need a LB, RW, CF GK and dominant DM. And by not signing the quality to fill at least 3 of these positions the club fell asleep at the wheel.


 

 

 

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01 Jan 2024 21:46:22
Shame Solbakken is definitely the type of player we should be after.

Mick87

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28 Aug 2023 07:25:45
Luis Palma . I ment Royjac this phone with predictive text is a nightmare.

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27 Aug 2023 22:22:21
Seemingly perraud podence Lima a centre back and centre mid . How true it is we will need to wait and see.

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20 Aug 2023 13:57:25
I agree Gary am the same way just about every signing we have made looks like a project on paper I really hope 1 or 2 of them can make the grade . I like the look of the boy Holm and Rocky but the rest look really raw and nowhere near first 11 players.

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05 Aug 2023 16:54:59
Is he away to Russia or the pub league?

Mick87

{Ed007's Note - Pub League or Russia, maybe even Spain.}


 

 

 

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14 Jan 2024 14:10:35
Celtic calling your off your rocker if you think M L can carry on the way he is at the moment. The recruitment has been a shambles since he came in.

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26 Nov 2023 12:38:39
@Timalloy I can’t be bothered with the politics that they get involved in either but they do create an atmosphere inside the ground and get other fans going.

If you were at the last two home games, especially yesterday you can’t deny how flat the crowd are.

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07 Oct 2023 11:01:42
It’s not the pitch Buzz am in Clydebank and roads are terrible. The wee man still wants to go so just checking if anyone had heard anything before we head out ?.

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03 Sep 2023 14:12:02
Never been more happy to be proven wrong in all my life . Thought Maeda was excellent and we should have scored more ?.

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27 Aug 2023 08:48:01
UI I get what you’re saying but on the flip side the performances on the park at the moment are not good enough. In a football club there should be no place for sentiment to be starting for Celtic you need to be on your game all the time or someone should be taking your place.

I said weeks ago Calmac looks like he needs a rest and I standby that but if you keep playing him and ring fence him no matter how he is playing what message does that send to other players that he is un droppable?

Some of these so called entitled fans spend a lot of money on the club and help to pay players wages so in my opinion are entitled to voice there concerns some of it may be overboard but a lot of it at the moment is justified with what we are seeing on the pitch .

In my opinion we played the worst team in the league yesterday and couldn’t have picked a better match after rugby park disappointment to bounce back and see a reaction and make a statement instead we ended up with a worse performance and even more questions than answers. So I don’t think you can blame guys for having a go at the moment as it’s deserved. You might be happy to cut players some slack because what they have done for the club in the past but as I said there is no place for sentiment in football and the team should always be about the here and now and only be as good as there last performances not previous seasons.

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