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10 May 2016 15:18:18
Irish bookmaker suspends betting on Keane for Celtic job.

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18 Apr 2016 12:12:57
Stv claiming RD will be in charge until end of season. Gives me the dry boak knowing he will be in charge against Ross County.

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1.) 18 Apr 2016 21:37:39
The next person that says either

He's a nice guy or he talks a good game if only he could get his message across etc
Or
He's got great ideas blah blah
He can only be judged on performance level and there have been as many poor ones as good ones and his big match record is pathetic. Really pathetic.


 

 

08 Apr 2016 17:03:01
Moyes 1/ 3 to be next Celtic manager.

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1.) 08 Apr 2016 18:20:32
Moyes comes in i won't be back i would be disgusted if he was manager bet the board would give him money! Bullet park n let ronny do it his way that's what i want.


2.) 08 Apr 2016 18:38:15
Someone was telling me the same thing earlier John. Supposedly that's the best price anywhere for him. He wouldn't be my first choice but he has got qualities. People say player recruitment is probably the biggest part of a managers job these days, especially with the power they have, well I think that's his biggest strength. I remember reading a piece about him talking about signing players and he was basically saying the amount of depth they go into because at Everton he felt he couldn't even get 1 signing wrong. He had so little to spend, relatively speaking, so fair play because it's easier said than done! I can't think of another manager to get so many signings right. Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Stones, Baines, Pienaar, Naismith, Miralles, Arteta, Cahill, and Saha cost around £20 million, not a bad 11. I think our squad would be in a much better condition in a couple of years if he did get the job.


3.) 08 Apr 2016 18:48:54
Delphic, great post, very correct figures, he spent within his budget and produced quality, We have the biggest budget, so if is in, and spends as well as he did at Everton, then job well done.


4.) 08 Apr 2016 19:07:53
No matter what the stats say, when moyes is under pressure he cracks. Look at both his jobs since he left Everton. Do I think he could handle the constant media bombardment and then their praise of the Rangers and their saviour the bread man no I don't but that's just my opinion. I think Ronny is way behind some at the club in terms of being sacked.


5.) 08 Apr 2016 19:22:55
Lets go with records what's ronny won trophies at celtic and in norway now mr incredible moyes what exactly has he won? Also we all know player recruitment is little to do with manager at cp so what could moyes really bring because the recruient out his hands.


6.) 08 Apr 2016 20:44:56
It's not like for like. Ronny had no experience of signing players, didn't know the market at all. The policy at the club was youth, the players they did sign was done by Tore Andre Flo's Brother who was the director of football. I'm sure Ronny had a say though. The model we have is followed by most clubs in Europe, the obvious secret is having the correct people in charge! My point was Moyes knows the market, has many contacts, well the proof is in the pudding, his record is brilliant. I'm sure Lawwell would be doing cartwheels if he could do that with us. I'm not Moyes biggest fan, but to be fair following Fergie at Utd was an impossible task, especially with the squad he left behind. Going to Spain was a strange one because it's the best league in the world and Sociedad are a mid table team. At least he took the chance though, it wasn't the easy option or the most lucrative.


7.) 08 Apr 2016 20:48:36
By the way I'm only talking about the pros and cons of Moyes because John spoke about it, and because of him being 1/ 3. You've at least got to be fair about him.


8.) 08 Apr 2016 23:08:31
Delphic I disagree about him having contacts as you will remember when he took over at Man U no one wanted to sign for him/ them, every player linked with Man U distanced himself from them. The best thing his contacts would bring would be some loan signings. As for Ronny the set up he likes to play requires fast paced direct wingers so he either has a say and can't identify a good winger from a attacking midfielder or he doesn't have a say and keeps getting hit with bang average attacking midfielders which is hardly his fault. I seriously can't see the type of manager most on here want because why would they agree to that when it's not like they are getting world class players dropped on them but rather Carlton Coles and ckrs and ciftis etc etc.


9.) 09 Apr 2016 09:24:25
Well that's another example of it not being like for like! In fact it couldn't be any more different! At Utd they simply have to sign world class players. So when you're saying no-one wanted to sign for him who do you mean? Resigning Ronaldo? When I say contacts I mean getting good players at a price we could afford! He knows all the lower leagues in England - getting Stones for £2.2 million etc. He signed Coleman from the Irish league for 50k after he had been on trial with us and we wanted more time to think about it, he seems to be able to spot a player. He got Arteta and Naismith from up here for less than £5 million, again great business. Well his brother (Kenny Moyes) is an agent, and his old man is still a scout at Everton I'm sure, so surely that's better than nothing. He signed Cahill from Millwall. In fact 2 of his biggest signings were Miralles and Fallaini from the Greek league and Belgian, another 2 bargains.


10.) 13 Apr 2016 16:29:01
Good info Delphic 20m is about 3 seasons budget for us. I'm sure most supporters wouldn't mind an 11 like that.


 

 

01 Feb 2016 09:49:26
Rumour Cifti away to Turkey.

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1.) 01 Feb 2016 10:27:14
Maybe he's been sent to that jail out Midnight Express! Hopefully he's taking a few with him! We might also be better with that guard in charge of us! You know the big charming cuddly one! I don't think it could be much worse than watching this crap! If we got rid of 10 players today and the whole management team I'd probably skip home from work! I might even thrown in a few somersaults! We need an old school manager with real experience because it's not working! It's quite simple - either Ronny and the rest of coaches aren't doing their job/ aren't capable, or the players aren't listening/ aren't capable of learning, either way we need change!


2.) 01 Feb 2016 10:35:55
I'd pay Prandelli, Favre, or Bielsa whatever it took to take over! The manager is the most important person at the club! If it takes £2/ 3 million a year for the right guy it's worth it! He can improve the whole club, something Lawwell isn't doing! We need experience for Europe, someone who won't be fazed, and someone with a real aura!


3.) 01 Feb 2016 13:07:49
Lawwell doesn't want a strong minded manager in there he wants a puppet that him and Desmond can control! Don't know y lawwel doesn't sack Ronny and install himself probably because if anything went wrong it would be down to him and couldn't blame the YES man!


4.) 01 Feb 2016 18:07:16
I agree Tam, - I just wish Desmond/ the rest of the board would overrule him. Supposedly the board are split about Ronny! They're all egomaniacs! I just read on another site that Moyes and a South American manager have been spoken to! It says the board where surprised at how much the South American knew about the club/ their history, and he would be interested! That could be Bielsa because he is a total anorak, and will know about Celtic! He'll remember us having a good team! He's a good age, very experienced! We should actually have went for someone like that with Deila being a coach! Anyway we need a change because I'm losing the will to live!


5.) 01 Feb 2016 21:24:45
Agree with you Delphic we don't have the money to buy a good squad we need a very good manager to get the most out of what we have. The extra coin saved on buying shite strikers could cover their salary.


 

 

24 Jan 2016 13:10:48
Celtic putting together a competitive package for Steven Fletcher. According to reports.

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1.) 24 Jan 2016 14:11:57
Can't see what he would bring to the team. Even if he does go to China we will all have to put up with this rumour for the next 6 windows at least.


2.) 24 Jan 2016 22:36:52
Fletcher and griffiths would be super up top. Fletcher much better than people give him credit for IMVHO.


3.) 25 Jan 2016 23:22:43
Fletcher is no better than than people give him credit for .
Too slow, too often injured and misses too many chances, apart from that he's not too bad .


 

 

 

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28 Jan 2016 21:46:21
Hi ed reports Colin kazim Richards in talks with us. You heard anything?

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{Ed007's Note - The only thing I've heard about him is that he's currently suspended by Feyenoord for threatening a journalist. I wouldn't be surprised to see him pop up in London this summer.


1.) 29 Jan 2016 18:32:04
We don't go for players threatening journalists in Scotland . We just use a Board Members Advertising Contract to get a Journalist dismissed.


 

 

 

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10 May 2016 22:17:26
Amid all the Keane talk hearing tomorrow the catering staff at Celtic Park might find out how many sugars Carnlough's must famous man takes

Gerry Braiden on Twitter hinting towards Rodgers.

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10 May 2016 15:22:48
Maybe won't be here when 25. But will for a few years yet. Last man off the park at Tynecastle you could see how much Celtic meant to him.

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02 May 2016 20:41:07
With the New Balance deal and the recent Magners/ Dafbet deals and the extra revenue you make from the Zombies. There is no reason why we can't give the New manager a decent transfer budget. Time for some serious investment know.

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02 May 2016 20:18:57
If £2.75m per year is correct that's some deal.

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20 Jan 2016 16:14:37
This player is over for a trial not to sign yet.

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15 May 2016 08:58:15
Look I will break it down into simple steps. Don't know why I'm doing this as you are one obnoxious person. Think the power of running a forum has over took your personality

1 Read stefs point in the morning thought it was tasteless.
2 Disagreed with comment.
3 Someone said it was turning into a pr stunt like the Tia Tim's
4 Disagreed with that comment
5 You asked why it wasn't a PR stunt
6 Answered I was not as cynical as you. Asked you the question why it's a PR STUNT
7 You highlighted the GOTM competition as a example to gaining PR
8 I pointed out (badly granted) any good deed will create a PR spin for someone but I didn't not think Celtic done it for that reason but the right reason
9 You got personnel and told me what PR means to prove you are correct.
10 Once again I said I didn't believe Celtic done it for PR reasons (which is just my opinion)
11 You then went on a rant about Gerald Ratner and asked me what the right reasons are.
12 Just my opinion but I like to think Celtic help all there good causes as it's the ethos of the club to help people in need. THE RIGHT REASON.

So quick summary. There is a PR situation in every good deed. I want to believe Celtic do it to help people. If this makes me a clueless individual well that's fine. Will wait on your witty answer belittling me.

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{Ed007's Note - Aw diidums, now I'm bellitling you, you do like to try and play the victim don't you?
That's not an answer, that's just a summary of the thread and still has no explanation to why it isn't PR. Look it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about, you haven't made one salient point and can't answer the simplest of questions. Now you can post back another meaningless post or tell people I remind you of the guy who bullied you at school, or how I've hurt your feelings to make you look like some sort of victim in all this, your inferiority complex is shining through.
If you won't - or can't - answer there's no point in carrying on this thread. What you think is obviously right despite everything pointing to the contrary.
My final word on the matter is that it's time the CFC PR department left the kid alone to grow up as normal as possible.
P.S. if you want to contact Jay or his family you need to go through the Club's PR Department. How cynical of them!}


 

 

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14 May 2016 23:12:28
You are a very patronizing man. I fully understand. No I don't think it's a PR stunt like to believe its done for the correct reasons.
You believe it's a PR stunt and that's your opinion.

I.

john67

{Ed007's Note - Where have I patronised you? Just because you don't understand what someone is saying doesn't mean they're patronising you. It's not that I believe it's a PR stunt, I know it is and it's obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense. Your opinion on it is irrelevant the same as mine because it is what it is - PR. Did you read the definitions (meaning)* that I cut and paste into the thread?
So your answer to the question on why it's not a PR stunt is that 'It's no coz I don't think it is' - is that the point we're at after today? In other words you don't have a clue what you're talking about, you've not even got an answer to a simple question and all you have done is try and have fly wee snidey digs at me because you are incapable of answering a very basic question about something YOU said. We've agreed that you don't think it's a PR stunt, nobody's questioning that, what I asked - more than once - was why and you've still not answered that question and you and I both know that you can't. So I'll ask you another one and you MUST know this one, what are these 'right reasons' you mention?
Do you have any other nuggets of wisdom you'd care to share with us? Did Gerald Ratner just not know his jewellery?*
Would you like to bad mouth any more good causes or charities to help not prove your point? ***

*That's patronising!

**So is that!

***Guess what? I bet you cant.....}


 

 

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14 May 2016 22:02:47
Glad you got that off your chest. Thought the subject was tasteless when I read it this morning but most people think Stef has a valid point.

At no point did I mean to offend anyone and apologize if my views have done this. Won't be commenting on this again. Love wee Jay and hope he's a Celtic Ambassador for a long time.

john67

{Ed007's Note - I wasn't talking about that though, I initially asked you to explain why it wasn't a PR stunt/excercise. That's all I asked you and because you didn't know you had to ask me first. See you've not really grasped it all.}


 

 

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14 May 2016 20:31:58
Kevbhoy/ ed007

I don't want to be as cynical as you. John Hartson does the Huddle on top of Ben Nevis is John doing a PR exercise for himself or Testicular Cancer. The GB do there food bank and charity nights are they doing a PR exercise. Kano Foundation the list goes on.

Every good turn that gets done will create a positive image for someone.

Would like to think Celtic do these things as it's the right thing to do. What our club was built on. IMO I would argue they don't do enough of this.

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{Ed007's Note - I think that's called charity work, there's money raised that goes to a charity when John Hartson done a Huddle on Ben Nevis, food collected goes to another charity and KANO is actually - a CHARITY! And guess what, they ALL want the PUBLICITY because they need it and would happily take part in any publicity they can get. Isn't the Huddle to Ben Nevis sponsored? So yes, it is a PUBLICITY STUNT for the charity - is that not obvious? You give us money and we'll be daft enough to climb Ben Nevis and don't forget to get plenty of pics done to maximise the PUBLICITY and remember the signs so nobody is in any doubt what charity it is in the PUBLICITY pictures we'll set up and take.
Would the cancer charity get the same money if the supporters didn't climb Ben Nevis, would the foodbank have the same amount of food if the GB didn't collect for the foodbanks? What about the kids KANO brings through, kids that might otherwise never see inside CP, who'd do that if they didn't?
You're comparing a guy nearly dying of cancer, a group of people good enough and decent enough to collect for the poor and needy and another group of people good enough and decent enough to bring a group of underprivileged kids - DIFFERENT kids - to Celtic Park to an 10/11 year old kid winning a Goal of the Month competition and being allowed out on the park after matches?
I thought you bringing Oscar Knox into it was tasteless this just takes the biscuit!
And btw, at no point have I said there is anything wrong with what goes on with Jay so I don't know what you're thinking I'm saying. The GOTM was absolute cringe material, anyone on here will tell you I have a low cringe threshold, and you're the only one who can't see that this is a PR exercise. The only other thing I would add is, although I'm not a parent I wouldn't allow my son to get involved in anything like that if I was. The whole thing with having kids in the continual spotlight has never sit right with me, at least in adverts or movies etc they get paid but there is always emotional problems as they grow up. Especially when the 'fame' stops.
One more thing,

'Would like to think Celtic do these things as it's the right thing to do. What our club was built on. IMO I would argue they don't do enough of this.'

Celtic are only involved with John Hartson's stuff. The GB food collections have nothing to do with Celtic, they wouldn't even advertise one of them a while back. KANO need to buy tickets for the kids and adult supervisors, need to buy the programme, scarves etc the kids get in their goody bag so really what you have said, and obviously believe, isn't factually true, sorry.
I think perhaps you've got a bit mixed up with what PR is, not to mention what it does and how it works.}


 

 

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14 May 2016 16:03:12
Ok it's all a PR STUNT Jay/ Tia Tim's Homeless campaign, Disabled function Autism campaign. Celtic board hang your head in shame.
After the stimulating debate I have opened my eye's to the cynical tactics used by Celtic.

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