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10 Aug 2014 22:50:30
Rumors rife that Tonev on a seasons long loan with option to buy is done deal and apparently Celtic in advanced talks with Az alkmar for Aron johannsen! Would be happy with those two would also like to see jeff louis in from nancy boy looks a player

{Ed007's Note - Aron Johannsson will not be joining CFC any time soon.}

1.) Ed, is that anything to do with Johannsons ankle surgery or the fact that we refuse to spend money?

{Ed007's Note - It's because he's not for sale bud.}

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31 Jul 2014 00:21:55
Kills me to say it but never have Celtic deserved a pumping like that more so than they did tonight! Lack of investment lack of vision and a lack of quality on the park only got Peter Lawell to blame for the biscuit tin mentality and not investing in a couple of marquee signings! If Celtic were skint a could accept it but when you know the money we have brought into the club in the last few seasons from player sales and champions league money it makes me sick can't think of a reason why we can't give RD 10-15 to strengthen instead we penny pinch in 1m bracket these day and for 1m all you get is a good spfl player at best can't keep buying players for that kind of money and hope we find a superstar bad business strategy. The kidding needs to stop now we have sold quality players and replaced them with sheer average not good enough We deserve to see a few quality players brought in but all we will get hit with is we can't afford them if we don't make the CL! Personally think it's time for Lawell to go all he cares about is how the accounts look!

1.) Is it not Demot Desmond who sets the budgets?
I think the whole team was so poor, individually as players and collectively as a team that £10 m spent on players may not have made much of a difference .

20 Jul 2014 01:10:22
Absolutely Scunnered by Celtic with not investing in the team! Sick of buying two three new tops every year and then season ticket and champions league ticket money for Celtic to not invest and penny pinch in the 1.5m bracket feel as if we are getting it ripped right out of us! The team is very average and is badly needing 2 or 3 quality players the money must be there from the champions league the last few seasons and the money from the sales of ki hooper wanyama etc we can't keep selling our best players and not replacing them. can't understand why we can't go out and spend four or five million on two or three players that will improve the team get usto the champions leauge and miby not make us the whipping boys in the CL group!actully terified thinking about what Europe's elite would do to that Celtic team!

1.) Because players of that caliber aren't wantin to play in our leauge mate

2.) Pepe, do you not think RD needs some time before he decides where he needs to strengthen? IMHO he will need 2-3 transfer windows as well as time to bring through youth players. That's what we all want after all, is it not?

3.) Yeah I agree mate, I've been saying it for ages, also everyone I speak to is of the same mind. Buying a bit of quality isn't a gamble, as long as they are a good age, scraping around all the time looking for bargains is a gamble because you end up wasting money on wages/players who are never going to be good enough! They are that price for a reason, sure you get the odd cracking deal/real bargain, but when you are always doing this it doesn't work - you get found out, end up with an oversized squad, which ruins the dynamic of the group/makes it more difficult for the manager to have a good atmosphere etc. It's absolutely pathetic, we don't even get told the definitive price that the player cost(Balde/Pukki/Dirk) - it ranges from £1 million - £3 million depending on the source. It is patronizing at best, shameful at worst, the Celtic fans are completed like prize fools, - you hear what all the big stars say when they visit Parkhead(Ibrahimovic/Xavi/Iniesta etc) they say how lucky the club are to have fans like this - Lawwell better start taking this on board, because loads of people I know are at breaking point, loads of my friends/family are knocking back the offer of season books every week from book holders that don't want to go to the game because the quality isn't there, and because they feel disgusted. One friend has 3 books that are going unused most weeks, but the penny is dropping for more and more, so as I said, they better sort it out. With Ronny coming in they had a chance to get everyone really excited, but with the weeks going by you think that well he can't perform miracles because the squad is full of people that should never be at Celtic, we have so many players that, and I include most of the youth players that have come through, are worth between £500k - £2 million. It's not good enough, guys like Stokes/Griffiths/Balde - what sort of Celtic strikeforce is that? When I started going to the games We had McClair/Macca/McInally, and right through the decades since we have had great Celtic strikers, this lot at present are imposters, of course the irony is we are supposedly in the best shape ever, - only at Celtic would this be possible!

4.) M8 totally agree, don't think any reasonable Celtic fan is looking for players in the £6m+ bracket, but at least the board show be showing some ambition (LoL), after all if we don't invest then the big money from getting into the CL group stages will be lost and that's not an option for Celtic we need and have come to rely on that cash but at the end of the day we have to have quality in the side to even compete!

5.) I was just wondering if any of you guys haven't renewed your Season Ticket or if you usually just go when you can but won't be really bothering this season - just what the reason is (assuming it's not financial, work or health that is)?

I definitely think the Club are now playing with fire. If there is an explanation for lack of transfer activity when we can all so blatantly see we are lacking in a few positions, then some kind of explanation would be good. We were seriously punching above our weight in Europe last season and got horribly found out - this season isn't looking any better.

6.) I've renewed Mrs E, but out of a crowd of us(inc friends/family) about 8 haven't - I've really only done it because I let my young nephew use mine 80% of the time, he's still at the stage where it's all still novel/exciting - the rest of us seen the light years ago! I don't mind losing money, It's part of being a fan, I've lost thousands on the shares I bought when Fergus took over, because I bought them to keep forever, not make a profit on. But I certainly don't like getting treated like an ars£hole!

7.) Maybe the reason we keep selling most of our best players is that they won't stay with us . The Victor's , Hooper and Ki all demanded to leave . If we cannot keep players who go to bottom EPL teams is it any wonder we cannot sign real quality .

8.) Yourman - Lawwell will love you, that's all he needs, more excuses. There is top quality players out there who would be falling over themselves to come to Celtic, even more so if we acted the way we should be acting. We got totally humbled in Europe last year by the worst AJax/Milan teams that I have seen in 30 years going to the football. It all comes down to the bottom line - something isn't working, and it better change. If you are happy with the status quo then I'm obviously missing something!

9.) Well Paul 1. I neither care what Lawwell or anyone else thinks of me . However I hold the view that it's better to invest wisely than spend £5/8 million on players hoping they will do well. Funny enough despite wonderful support many Celtic players who think they are in that money category can't wait until they get away . Why are u so sure we can sign that value of a player

{Ed007's Note - Don't be so naive, if you are willing to spend the money you can sign anyone, even a Messi or Ronaldo. 98% of players will go to who offers them the most money, 1% will go where their agent tells them and 1% don't bother about money because they are happy with their lot. Do you think Samnuel Eto'o went to Anzhi Makhachkala because the Russian league is so strong or to win the CL, or do you think it was the £300k a week (after tax) they paid him?}

10.) Paul I've renewed as well.

I'll be honest, Ki was folks favourite player? When, wit game? Ki was a talent but never if your friggin life was he suited to the Scottish game and whit game did you decide he was your favourite player? Always been cynical of the online thing but this rips the ar*e right out.

{Ed007's Note - That's a bit random......}

11.) In reply to Paul's post it was random lol. Very observant Ed :-)

It was to do with a post I had seen the other day about players of the recent past, Ki? And Ledley last season who was injured them left for Crystal Palace? :-

I was thinking about who's been my favourite Celtic player, season to season, since I started going to the games regularly.

So here goes:

97/98: Larsson / Lambert
98/99: Larsson / Lambert
99/00: Viduka / Moravcik
00/01: Larsson / Valgaeren / Mjallby
01:02: Larsson / Lambert / Hartson / Mjallby
02/03: Larsson / Hartson / Balde / Sutton
03/04: Larsson / Sutton / Hartson
04/05: Hartson / Petrov
05/06: Hartson / Petrov
06/07: Nakamura / Boruc
07/08: Boruc / Robson / McDonald
08/09: Samaras / Boruc
09/10: Keane / Hinkel
10/11: Ledley / Hooper
11/12: Ledley / Ki
12/13: Samaras / Ledley / Lustig
13/14: van Dijk / Commons / Ledley

How would everyone else's look?

12.) I'm not quite as anal about it as your good self Mrs E, but I've always liked players who were respectful of the club/fans, and who were consistent, maybe not world beaters, but selfless in their play. Guys like Aitken/McStay/Bonner/Collins, more recently, Sutton/Mjallby, currently, Forster/Lustig/Henderson, that's just a few examples of players I've liked, and a few different reasons - I'll have missed a few out, but the memory isn't quite what it was - let's blame the liquor!

13.) You mentioned Valgaeren, he is the best centre half we have had since Paul Elliot, I've been going to the games for 30 years and those 2 are the best I have seen - Virgil doesn't come close!

14.) Sorry Paul my post from last night does seem random and not explained well. The players aren't mine, it's a copy of Hamilton Bhoy's from the other day. I'm much the same as yourself and couldn't remember specific seasons without looking them up. 1998 stands out as we stopped 10, things like that I remember.

I was just surprised to see Ki as a favourite player that was all and did get distracted lol

I'm delighted with the signing of VVD but my jury is still out as every time he was seriously tested, collapse. I know some will blame Ambrose (fair enough) but Ambrose partnered Kelvin Wilson in the CL the season before and we were outstanding defensively - Juventus I know but he was just back from the ACN. Different team as well without Wanyama but I'm just hmmm

In recent times my only really stand out favourite was Larsson. I remember when I was younger I loved Charlie Nic and just thought Pat Bonner was the Celtic goalkeeper forever, it would never change!

Sometimes I like to see a player who may not be the most gifted but has a right good work rate, really puts in a shift. I admire that.

Anyway before I got distracted, I have renewed my season tickets and hoping to see a few goals at Murrayfield. My Sons are young and don't really understand all this going on with the Board etc - a simpler time for us all I think. My oldest Son in particular is a football fan and would watch anything including a dire Celtic performance.

I had a discussion the other day about fans with a sense of entitlement, it was to do with Brazil fans and just wondered if we do that at times? Like Pepe's original post, not having a go as we've all done it - 'I'm no paying X amount to watch that crap' when you have fans of Clubs who haven't won a thing.

15.) Bummer - I was going to ask you round to organize my life. I can hardly remember 98, never mind my fav player from that year. What you said about us almost expecting/demanding is true, I act like a spoiled brat at the best of times, but I just feel that the club don't act like the giant we are. We aren't dynamic enough, I agree that's it's all relative, and because we play in Scotland we can only do so much, but in business/life there is always a way if you have the right people in charge. I won't be happy until we win the European Cup again, I am a bit of a romantic, but if you don't aim for that then you are as well chucking it! I think you can place huge demands on the club, but still have class/be gracious at the same time! That's why I like Deila - he seems to get that everything is possible, not just with hard work, but by being open to learning new ideas. I've been saying for years that the coaching at Celtic was draconian - but so many people were just happy to have a good Celtic man in Lennon running the club. Maybe I'm a bit thick, but why could we produce world class players 30/40 years ago at Barrowfield, but not now, why can all the other big clubs in Europe produce them, but we bring through guys that are playing in Div 1/2 in Scotland by the time they are 25? Cheers

16.) An overbearing sense of entitlement from fans is certainly not the classiest way to behave.

All day long Celtic are a big Club but the problem is the financial gulf between the top European Clubs and Celtic is massive and nobody has the answer for this. Your Real Madrid, Barca's etc are utterly ruthless and look at the money for football kits - recently Man Utd. No idea what Celtic's deal is with Nike but I can imagine it will be insignificant in comparison.

I do not know what's happened with the players in Scotland, there's no one near the talent of Dalglish or Jimmy Johnstone, even a Charlie Nicholas (just to name a few) and the Mangers - Stein, Busby, Ferguson, Shankly. These guys weren't just good, they were the best. This is a mystery to me as well Paul.

I've not seen enough of Ronny to make a judgement yet at all but it goes without saying I want him to be a massive success.

I don't think you're alone is not being totally happy until the European Cup is won again lol

20 May 2014 23:55:38
Just watched highlights from finnbogassons season 29 goals top scorer in holland! That boy is some talent man if wee don't go in with a five million pound bid and offer 25/30k a week for him there's something seriously wrong the boy is world class that the calibre of player that could take is to the next level! Snodgrass is another lad that's daft for the tic and would jump at the chance of playing here! Honestly if got they two a think teams in the champions league would be scared to play us rather than looking at us as the whipping boys! Time for the kidding to stop this sort of quality is required

1.) Totally disagree, give Griffiths achance in europe, Finnbogasson has been hyped to hell, am not convinced about him, especially at the money being talked about.

2.) 21 May 2014 07:00:04
European's elite scared of Snodgrass?

3.) Anyone not convinced wi Finnbogason but would give Griffiths a chance needs a psychiatric assessment! I'm with ye on this PepeBhoy, we need a big game player and that's exactly what this lad is!

4.) Are we still going on about this guy folks. Not wanting to sound like a moaning git but give it a rest please

5.) Yes, we are Hew. D'you know why? Because our First Team strikeforce for next season consists of Anthony Stokes, Amido Balde, Holmbert Fridjonsson, Teemu Pukki, Leigh Griffiths, Tony Watt, Bahrudin Atajic + Denny Johnstone.

Last seasons stats:

Stokes = 21 in 46
Balde = 3 in 24
Fridjonsson = 0 in 0 for us, 10 in 21 for Fram (ICE)
Pukki = 7 in 32
Griffiths = 7 in 14 for us, 13 in 30 for Wolves (ENG)
Watt = 0 in 3 for us, 9 in 18 for Lierse (BEL)
Atajic = 1 in 3 for us, 0 in 13 for Shrewsbury (ENG)
Johnstone = 0 in 0

Does that fill you with confidence that we have goalscoring strikers in our squad to get us to the CL Group Stage and compete for 2nd/3rd spot or achieve a domestic Double or Treble? Because it sure as hell doesn't fill me with faith!

6.) Were January quotes not around 7/8 million for him? This guy is way out our price range! It will be the same old same old 2 mill nobody dud as in the past or a loan has been! Do any of you out there think we will even sign anyone until 1 the World Cup is over? 2 forster or vvd are sold or even 3 till the board see if we qualify for cl?. This could be along summer!

{Ed007's Note - I don't know how much Heerenveen are looking for but I'd hazard a guess at around the 5/6 million Euros mark. The reports that Fulham bid £7.5 million in January aren't entirely accurate, it was 7.5 million Euros (approx £6m).}

7.) If we hadn't spent £2.4m on Pukki, £1.8m on Balde, £1m on Griffiths + £100k on Fridjonsson I'm sure we could've had Finnbogason last summer for £5.3m who almost (31 in 34 for Heerenveen) scored as many as our entire strikeforce did put together - a paltry 39 goals! He actually scored more than those 4 new strikers who only managed 17 goals for us last season.

8.) I honestly don't think he would come to us tbh, he said just as much last year. Wouldn't say no mind you. I think Snodgrass is a more realistic target and I'd be over the moon if we replaced Forrest with him. We need a few wingers now though. Does anyone know any other strikers we may be interested in?

9.) I totally agree we should sign one or two guys in the 5/6 million region this year but I just don't think the policy at the club will allow it, a 2 million dud is bad but not overly serious but imagine we spent 5/6 million and it didn't work?
I honestly feel that our signing policy will catch up with us this season if we don't aim higher than potential, the champions league is the holy grail to maintain our current level and I have severe doubts about making it this year with 2 of our probable back 4 at the WC.
On another point I had a major dilemma wether to renew my season ticket this year as our signing policy / style /lack of competition and all round disharmony at the club made me question was my 500 pound worth spending on renewal, in the end I did but I'm still not convinced I did the right thing?part of me still thinks I shouldn't have renewed to let the money men know they have to do more to convince me

10.) I might be wrong here but did Alitidore not score a barrel load in the Eredivisie last year but has only scored one in the EPL? I'm not saying Finnbogasson isn't a good player and I was one of the fans wanting him to come but last year but at the price quoted is he really worth the risk?

11.) Agree Jim, can't see us signing anyone until our European fate is signed, sealed and delivered but as this has became the norm the past few years! Altidore scored 51 in 93 for AZ, that's not quite the same as Alfie Finn who has scored 59 in 66 for Heerenveen. Plus, the SFA/SPFL competitions aren't quite the EPL.

12.) Am fed up to hearing about him do people not realise Ed he was on our radar when he was a Helsingborg player! He signed for dutch mob the week before we played them season before last in CL qualifier it was recognised then that Helsingborg had lost there threat going into the game! Anyway as a result of signing for a team who WAS a world class striker! his game has improved big time!

A know ED does not agree with on the need for a COACHING striker and that's fair enough

But John Park's overview / assessment of Fingbossan was that was ALL he was a poacher/scorer! a Kris Boyd type who outwith scoring did little he haw else it is difficult to see what has changed, he signed for Herneveen? for circa £600k

{Ed007's Note - I just don't think we should be shopping in the market for players who need taught how to score goals, fair enough for youngsters but if our first team strikers need to be taught to score goals then they simply shouldn't be our first team strikers. Who taught Larsson, Sutton, Scott McDonald, Hooper or even Commons how to score?}

13.) I'm sick of the "what if it goes wrong" argument. Inventors, pioneers and those who dare to achieve don't ask such questions. Neither should a football club looking to progress. If we can sell players for that much, we can, no, should be buying players for that much. I don't care about money in the bank, I'd rather see it 'risked' on something better on the park. For the record I'm going to say this lad would be sensational for us.

14.) Jamiebhoy is an attacking minded coach not what you mean? I agree with ed we shouldn't need a striker coach.The lads a finisher, just get the team creating more chances. It's the three or four behind a guy like Finnbogason that need the more coaching. He knows his job is to put the ball in the back of the net. The only trick is working out the best way to get it to him. It's simple really. A couple attackers behind him that can chip in with goals. Two attacking minded midfielders who are 'playmakers' and an anchor who is also capable of playing a pass. That's all we need to do.

15.) Thanks Ed but giving where we are and the fact we are now looking to "purchase to sell at profit" ( I know it sticks in the throat)!

But we are rubbish at purchasing at this end of the park and we get fed is well "everyone wants a striker" its crap!

A would have loved big Sutton in there bit won't happen now! for sure

Finally in an agreement mode it is refreshing for someone to call/say what Seville is/was

If Peter Houston gets this no.2 post I will scream!

16.) I would have thought goal scoring is a natural art. I am not so sure it can be coached . A striker coach could actually destroy the natural flair that strikers have . Strikers sometimes don't bring their goal scoring ability from one club to another .

17.) JimTim a mean a STRIKER coach! that's it the most trusted coach at celtic is Stevie Woods has he not turned big FF around introduced to Yoga etc, got him first out at HT doing a routine etc

Did we not make Wanyama, Wilson, etc better players through coaches who played these positions?

We had the chance of the lad @ 600k he goes and signs for and is coachdd by Marco Van Basten now we are going to pay 6mill, a rest mycase

18.) So @ 7 14 tonight the DR highlight that Henrik is fav to land the job

MaYBE big Sutton be No.2 after all lol

19.) We also signed Harold brattback (spelling) most prolific striker in the world ratio wise! Couldn't hit a coo on the arse with a stick! Thanx for stopping 10 in a row Harold hail hail!

20.) What would a striker coach teach them, the direction the goal is in? "Hit the ball with your laces son". It's the movement in and around the box, the positioning, passing moves, the urgency of them and overall technique in the final third that can be coached. I'm not sure there even will be any "striker coaches" as such. Fair enough coaches that were strikers but I'm pretty sure they're not getting paid just to show footballers how to hit the target. It's overall attacking play they'll be working on. Wilson who?

21.) JimTim a was taught the "goals never move" but as your thread says movement, technique etc but also dealing with a "barren spell" expectations of playing of a club the size of Celtic etc

Why have a goalkeeping coach then it is much of an art to keep the ball out the net as it is to put it in!

Also who was the last to fill the No 7 jersey? KEANE we ain't getting the marquee signing we all want and getting fed the "nuggets" like VVD and Johnansen are getting harder to find! etc

22.) Wilson as in Kelvin, we need to try something that is for sure!

23.) Jim Tim what you say is the natural instinct of a striker, he either has it or else he hasn't . It cannot be coached or trained into a player. The difficulties some strikers can have is getting into the same timing as the other attackers. They need to make the run into the space to suit the other players.

12 May 2014 22:54:32
Celtic are needing to go and splash the cash on finnbogasson and snodgrass sell Forster to pay for them sell all the dead wood like kyal boerogter blade muykolo and bleed all our young talent into the team over the coarse of next season like Henderson mgregor watt and twartick! If we got they two in we would be some force in Europe even away from home with that bit of class up front with snoddy and commons behind him! Ano everyone is thinking am nuts buys that's what's needed this year quality over quantity that team isn't far away best back line for years just lacks a touch of class in the final third!

1.) I don't think you're nuts. I'll be hoping, no, almost demanding we sign two players of Snodgrass' or Finnbogason's quality, and then some! Without even needing to sell Forster to fund it!

2.) The guy flat out refused us! Not for me, he can swivel! Playing for Celtic is an honor. I agree about the quality but not from him. There must be a player out there that's just as good but would actually want to sign for us. Ed has it spot on though. We need to raise our wages limit 25 to 30. If we do that we would get a lot better players in the door. I have a feeling we are all going to be very pee'd off at the end of this window. Lenny is going to Brazil on his holiday it's not like we will be able to sign anyone good from the world cup so why are we wasting time scouting it?

3.) Who refused us? Certainly wasn't Finnbogason. Celtic pulled the plug on the deal over £500k in the bank (yet spent the same amount it would've cost to get AF on Balde, Pukki n Boerrigter who managed about 30 starts between them in all competitions). Finnbogason posted YNWA on Twitter the night he was linked with us and repeatedly said he'd listen to ALL offers, something he's reiterated this weekend.

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