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05 Aug 2020 15:29:06
Dont know if there's any truth in it but I've been told we want to bring in Toney and Ajeti with Bayo moving out on loan or permanent and Klimala going to Aberdeen on loan for the season.

Ice Man

1.) 05 Aug 2020 17:37:24
I don't see that unless eduarde is off.


2.) 05 Aug 2020 19:18:46
Klimala is going nowhere.


3.) 05 Aug 2020 19:28:29
Find it strange to loan out Klimala, when he is just settling into the club and team-mates, plus getting game-time with goal (s) .
I do appreciate that if you include Griff, to the above equation then we would have too many to accommodate unless Eddy is leaving?
Personally, I would expect us to settle for Ajeti on loan, keep Eddy on an incentive, for one more season. With so much to play for and five substitutes per game, we can comfortably have four strikers.
The cash saved on Toney can go towards the urgent defensive needs?


4.) 06 Aug 2020 15:24:23
Seen somewhere the ajeti deal is loan with perm option if he gets a certain amount of games this season.


 

 

12 Jul 2020 15:30:12
Ed please excuse my ignorance but exactly how to transfer deals work? The Wolfsberger president has come out publicly and said we have made a bid for Weismann, but if this was the case wouldn't it either be rejected or accepted. I appreciate that we may not have even made a bid and their president is trying to drum up interest.

Ice Man

{Ed002's Note - The scouting staff will prepare reports on players and provide an idea about price; coaches will look at the players but have no idea about price; they will go to a Director of Football (or perhaps a mix of the finance director and others responsible for the monies) and say we would like this player and we think he will cost £x. Checking against available budgets, the club will likely approach his agent to ask if the player might be interested in the move and a broad idea about the package the player would want, and any broad idea about what the club would want - and what terms they may be open to (cash up front, spread over a year etc.). This sits inside the overall transfer process which looks something like this:

The same way as any other club do. The process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally to negotiate about a transfer and even to the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve the showing of serious interest (perhaps through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak formally to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.

Alternatively, a selling club may ask an agent to find a new club for a player and he will talk directly to potential selling sides about the fee, personal terms and interest.

The rest of the time agents will be on fishing trips trying to find interest in their players.

In terms of what happens when the negotiations take place, broad agreement (player available and open to discussions, understanding of the price) will already have been reached. The clubs will meet to discuss the details of the transfer fee, other costs associated with the move and the structure of the payments and any additional fees (e.g another €5M for winning the Champions League etc.) but this does not take a "few days".}


1.) 13 Jul 2020 11:27:23
Thanks for the insight. It’s a complicated game, and shows why leaving it close to deadline is asking for trouble.

{Ed002's Note - It gets more difficult Davie.}


2.) 13 Jul 2020 13:11:09
actually all is needed is honesty from clubs when i was young only corrupt sport was boxing ans maybe cycling and horse racing now all sport is corrupt.


3.) 13 Jul 2020 14:56:40
Intresting read that Ed. Must be a nightmare to get deals done.


4.) 13 Jul 2020 18:21:38
Ed, is there a possibility we may even have players signed and just waiting for the window to open to announce them?

{Ed007's Note - It's possible but I doubt they would do that.}


 

 

19 Apr 2020 17:13:15
Ed is there any truth in the Roberts bid or is it online nonsense?

Ice Man

{Ed007's Note - There's not been any bid made but there might be in the future. I'd imagine that there won't be much happening anywhere transfer wise while thing are so uncertain regarding the footballing timetable.}


1.) 19 Apr 2020 18:45:50
On that note Ed what is likely to happen with the transfer window? I’m sure it normally opens round about 1st July. Can that still happen with all the uncertainty surrounding the leagues or is it likely to be delayed until decisions have been made on how and when the football season finishes.

{Ed007's Note - I've no idea what they're going to do mate and it's one of the most important things that needs to be settled pretty soon - probably even before decisions regarding leagues or matches being played - along with expiring contracts, loan deals ending, sponsorship deals.
As things stand come June 30th we'll only have Scott Bain as a first team GK.}


 

 

14 Mar 2020 10:15:31
I've been told that Celtic are extremely confident Edouard will sign a new and improved contract and that the club are pushing hard to sign Ivan Tony in the summer who they believe we take over the mantle when Eddy eventually moves on.

Ice Man

1.) 14 Mar 2020 13:52:35
Good news but what was the point of Klimala? Seems a big outley for a future squad player?


 

 

19 Feb 2020 21:38:21
Thought I'd share this with you guys. Was speaking to a guy today from Leicester (not a City fan. Grew up an Evertonian) . Anyway we were chatting football and told him I was a Celtic fan. He said you guys are getting a new shirt manufacturer aren't you? I told him nothing was confirmed but Adidas has been mentioned. He told me it definitely will be Adidas as the firm he works for has a contract with Adidas doing retail signs and he is coming back up to Scotland in the next few months to put them into 2 Celtic stores. The first one being at the stadium.

Ice Man

1.) 20 Feb 2020 11:14:02
I thought it was an open secret since the end of last year that we were moving to Adidas?

Surely though any signage wouldn't be put up to the close season as opposed to the next few months as New Balance will have the rights to the end of the season.


2.) 20 Feb 2020 12:30:46
We’re now in mid February and the season finishes in May. That to me would be the next few months.


3.) 20 Feb 2020 12:38:48
Good move should be lucrative. heard that's who the sevvies want when the mighty Hummel chuck it.


4.) 20 Feb 2020 16:01:59
Not unless adidas see the advert pimping themselves out for a new manufacturer 😂😂😂.


 

 

 

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25 Sep 2020 09:49:46
Seriously what are Lennons post match comments all about. How can he possibly turn round and say "we were very good" "we were excellent". I feel personally insulted by these comments. Every supporter who watched the game last night could see we were absolutely dire just as we have been for the past 9 or 10 games. Call a spade a spade Neil and admit we're miles off it just now but to come out with the comments he did absolutely riled me. I've no idea where this style of football has come from, side to side and backwards passing. No creativity, no penetration. Thank god the game didn't go to penalties as Taylor would have passed his back to McGregor.

Ice Man

1.) 25 Sep 2020 10:45:33
just not paping them under the bus mate for the press to make a big deal of it. will no doubt have words in the dressing room. not a good idea to slag your players of to the cameras.


2.) 25 Sep 2020 11:31:27
As a manager who knows club inside out, he must know the reasons for these performances and the problems within the squad. Otherwise he would be better just packing it in now.
The support are perplexed and frustrated at what we are watching and a media, more than willing to stick the boot in at every turn.
After the CL exit they creamed themselves as he opened up about the unrest and unhappy players at the club and that was humiliating enough, without being 'advised' to retract this 24 hours later and trying to put a positive slant on the moral and team spirit for the next game.
There are obviously still problems with certain players seeking to play elsewhere, but he has to pay lip-service to the press without losing face or exposing the club to outside sniping and gloating.
Most of us are concerned with some aspect of the club or another but he is right not to give ammunition to detractors and foes.


3.) 25 Sep 2020 12:06:38
Celtic Mad
I’m hoping the players in the dressing room will settle down when the transfer window closes and get on with the job in hand.
By the time the January window reopens they will see the finishing line is only a few months away and will want to be part of something special.


4.) 25 Sep 2020 15:19:59
Ice man. 😂😂😂😂.


 

 

17 Sep 2020 21:30:57
Ed bit of a left field question here but do you think this season will be Neil Lennons last as manger of the club? My personal opinion is that it will be. If he delivers the 10 there is no better way to leave his tenure as manager and if he fails to deliver the 10 I don't think he'll have an option to stay. If I'm correct it begs the question who will we identify as our next manager. John Kennedy will be the favourite I'd imagine but he's not for me I'm afraid. I'd like to see us appoint someone who can take the club forward and bring us up to date with the modern day game.

Ice Man

1.) 17 Sep 2020 23:03:32
I think so too Ice Man. It would be the perfect time for guys like Lennon, Brown and even Lawwell to make way for things at the club to be freshened up.


2.) 17 Sep 2020 23:53:06
I like the idea of Eddie Howe coming in.


3.) 18 Sep 2020 00:11:48
A wee bit too far ahead for me. I haven’t even got my Halloween costume sorted yet. 😬.


4.) 18 Sep 2020 00:40:05
20 would ALLOW Celtic to re group and re set and re assess.

The 10 for us is key but in this landmark milestone season it also means that odd decisions will be made that won't align with a longer term view

For me, its about standards

It's about philosophy

Its about attraction

Its about progression

Its about personality

In my lifetime, there have been 3 managers that have lit me up

Burns
Oneill
Rogers

After 10, we can go with a younger manager who will have the time to make different decisions and blood youngsters

My hope, sincerely, is that we put entertainment and youth development at the heart of everything. rearing our own and blending that with the emerging international talent ( work permits allowing)

The fans will forgive a lost trophy or a gallant failure IF they think we are motoring in the right direction

IF we do the 10, C.V. impacts will disrupt the whole experience. . let's not kid ourselves. players are playing at half pelt and we are tuning in and tuning out in equal measure as the " product " is very very poor. the lack of atmosphere is very off putting

This will make the 10 difficult to do and weirdly, instantly forgettable

If we get to 10 there needs to be new, fresh impetus

NL could go
PL coukd go
DD could go

And we could see the likes of willie haughey come in, along with a petrov or Larsson and the youngest best talent in Scotland, ireland and Wales etc .

We need to look to ajax for inspiration and pay top class coaches top dollar to develop the cream of Scottish and Gaelic talent and see where that model takes us

Having a 60m wagebill is not the answer and I'm not too sure that a 40m wagebill would lose us leagues either.


5.) 18 Sep 2020 08:11:54
Wim Jansen was also a gift from god.


6.) 18 Sep 2020 08:36:15
Personally, I think he will go because the task ahead may be too much for him. Not because he does not have the ability to see it through; but because there are other factors that could derail the season and apart from that this will also be the last season for several players to leave as well and a rebuilding will take place.


7.) 18 Sep 2020 13:40:14
Fans are unforgiving lads this post to intelligent.


 

 

29 Jul 2020 18:25:39
Ed are you aware of what the situation is with Ajeti. There's so many conflicting reports. Some are saying a deal was agreed, others are saying he's gone cold on the idea and another club have asked him to stall on the move to Celtic and there are also reports that the deal was never that far down the line and is still likely to go ahead. What can you tell us?

Ice Man

{Ed007's Note - West Ham are keen to move Ajeti on and would rather sell but there are potential loan options from Celtic and Benevento in Italy. WBA have supposedly registered their interest in taking the player permanently which would suit West Ham in getting a fee for him.}


1.) 29 Jul 2020 23:09:36
The young black guy from Dublin, looks like he has a talent for scoring goals, why do we have to take people on loan instead of giving our youth players a chance in the first team, all those old sayings like cometh the hour, cometh the man, are old sayings because they have been proved right over hundreds of years, forget the loan players give the young team a chance! .


2.) 30 Jul 2020 11:01:23
I get your point but not sure he was that good on loan to Dunfermline last season. Think we should be giving these guys a chance in cups. We already have two unproven strikers in the first team squad. If Afolabi was good enough I think he would be around it. Another loan would probably suit better maybe to a lower premier league club this time see if he can get a game there first.


3.) 30 Jul 2020 11:01:30
I'm with you aindoh i hope we play the young lads more this season.


4.) 30 Jul 2020 12:39:35
Make sure we win the league this season then play and develop the youngsters next season
#lastdance.


 

 

16 Jul 2020 22:53:38
Not looking good for Griff at all. Lenny has absolutely slaughtered him about his fitness and being overweight. Said he's let himself and the club down. Also said he need to stop all the social media nonsesne.

"If he wants to have a future at this club it's down to himself.

We're not prepared to do a lot more for him. Everything is there for him. He's let himself down and he's let us down.

You can never say never about chances but he's got a lot to do to get back in around it.

The ball is firmly in his court and it shouldn't have come to this. He shouldn't have been out of condition and he shouldn't have been heavier"

I love Griff as most will know but I've got to side with Lenny on this. Think he'll struggle to get in the squad now and can see us liking to get a replacement in.

Ice Man

{Ed007's Note - Hands up from me, I called that wrong as I had been told LG was injured but Lennon also mentioned he was picking up injuries because he was out of shape - so feck it we were all right about him lol.}


1.) 16 Jul 2020 23:05:28
Haha the mighty 007 was wrong 😂 fair do's for holding the hands up big stuff.

{Ed007's Note - 😁


2.) 16 Jul 2020 23:06:39
Reading the interview from Lennon personally I think there is no way back for him.


3.) 16 Jul 2020 23:16:18
Hes got to be in the last chance saloon now eh?


4.) 16 Jul 2020 23:20:28
He's done at celtic.


5.) 17 Jul 2020 00:08:17
He'll be at celtic for at least 5 years and score at least another 100 goals some don't need to be super fit to produce and griff is one.


6.) 17 Jul 2020 06:58:49
After reading Lennons quotes it looks like griffiths has went to far this time. The club, the support in the main have stuck by griffiths this past year and a half, it’s now time for him to give back and do what he does best and what the club pay him to do, unfortunately it looks like he doesn’t give a rubbish and thinks he can do as he pleases. It’s so sad to see as a fit griffiths is a major asset to the team but he seems hell bent on ruining what years he has left as a pro.


7.) 17 Jul 2020 07:06:14
Nonsense Jake he’s a chancer and should be shown the door.


8.) 17 Jul 2020 07:37:10
Said I would come on and apologise if it turned out I was wrong for having a go at Griffiths, and I wished I was! For me he’s done at our club! Shocking going into a 10iar season and he’s come back overweight and unfit! Then when lennon tells him to get in shape and stay off social media he goes and does the exact opposite! He’s finished in my eyes. the club and fans have been magnificent with him and like I said the other day, he’s shat all over that! Very disappointed is an understatement!


9.) 17 Jul 2020 08:30:32
Jake if that was true why is he bombed out the squad now for being unfit? Why did lennon spend a good bit of last season saying even though he was back in training he wasn't fit enough to play?


10.) 17 Jul 2020 10:04:15
Jake that's the exact opposite of the snessage Lennon has just sent! He is clearly on his last chance. There is no room for any one not to be 💯 fit with the way we play. Let's hope he gets his rubbish in order.


11.) 17 Jul 2020 10:51:23
Going into such a important season knowing that we get negative stories about us anyway you would of thought being a senior player he would be leading from the front on behaviour and attitude, needless negative story caused by him. He got backed before and the support appeared to be amazing what a kick in the balls for lenny and the coaches not to mention team mate, i like griff but i think its time to get rid and bring in a player that has the drive and hunger to want to succeed.


12.) 16 Jul 2020 23:15:10
Ed he mentions that when Griff was told to do fitness work during lockdown he said he couldn’t as he was injured. That doesn’t sound great to me. Sounds like a poor attitude on Griffs part.


13.) 16 Jul 2020 23:38:14
Fair play ed, we all side with the club and players . Called supporting through thick n thin . This sheds new light and think there is no way back now for griff. A know the boy has mental problems, we all know or have had them ourselves and know the struggles . Its a shame and its a problem in society that needs addressing . Footballers are not immune. A hope he recovers and sorts his life out, but over his entire career its excuse after excuse. Time to cut him loose .

{Ed007's Note - I did have a chuckle to myself reading Lennon's comments about social media. He should know the pitfalls of social media after all considering the Club ordered Lennon to leave them after he was caught being a sleazebag towards young women on Twitter - just before he threw Alan Thompson under the bus.}


14.) 17 Jul 2020 13:22:24
The magnitude of the season coming up we've no time for passengers if they don't put the effort in then they shouldn't be anywhere near the squad.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 22:31:07
Ed with regards to Big Forster. Is it likely he'll wait until the last minute i. e possible the end of the transfer window to see if another club makes an offer. If so surely we can't be willing to wait that long for an answer and will have moved on to other options?

Ice Man

{Ed007's Note - There's no way we can wait until October for Forster to make up his mind, he needs to get his finger out and let Celtic know what his plans are or we move on imo.}


1.) 15 Jul 2020 00:15:11
It may come to that getting in one other as well Forster for the moment to compete with Bain then if Forster does decide to take his time we could then wait.


2.) 15 Jul 2020 13:10:35
If Joe Hart does sign how long does Lennon give him to get his confidence back? There's something going on in the background that we're not hearing or seeing. Got a feeling Hart will be the No 2 and another will be coming in as No 1. Hazard or Bain will go out on loan. 50,000 season tickets sold and the fans demand decent signings.

{Ed007's Note - I can't see Hart going anywhere to be a No.2, Stengo or Celtic paying him the wage he'll want to sit on our bench.}


3.) 15 Jul 2020 13:28:27
What I'm thinking Ed is that Hart takes time to get his confidence back and Forster is back in on loan for a season then Hart becomes no 1. Can't see Hart suddenly getting his confidence back after a week or two. If Stevie Woods sorts him out then there may be a reasonably decent keeper still there. It's not Lawwell's way of doing things but this is a massive year for having someone with shot confidence between the posts.

{Ed007's Note - There's nothing wrong with Hart's confidence, it's his attitude and approach to his personal life that cost him his City career (and other moves), his high profile sponsorships and his agent dropped him, all leading to a hush-hush police inquiry.
With the way some Celtic fans have turned on LG it's probably for the best Hart doesn't sign for us - and Stevie Woods won't be able to sort him out.}


4.) 15 Jul 2020 13:54:51
The thing that concerns me were a couple of stats I saw in that he conceded 62 goals in 36 games and in 19 games that he played for Burnley they lost 13. Not the sort of form you want taken into a 10IAR season.

{Ed007's Note - Maybe he had a bet on? 🤔


5.) 15 Jul 2020 13:56:35
Steve Woods is a top coach but he ain't a miracle worker .


6.) 15 Jul 2020 14:20:57
Whats the story ed? Is this gambling thing your hinting at common knowledge? Av not heard anything.

{Ed007's Note - Well there's newspaper stories out there about him losing £100k in one night in a casino and expensive days out at the races but that's just the tip of the iceberg, Hart had gambling debts of about £1.5 million when he left City.}


7.) 15 Jul 2020 19:38:03
Thats obscene. Wonder if he's skint if he's gambling like that.

{Ed007's Note - I doubt it mate, he was on £100k + a week for years.}


8.) 15 Jul 2020 20:41:26
True, what wages do u think we'll be forking out for him if we end up with him.

{Ed007's Note - If he joins us he will need to take a big drop in wages from his reputed £60k -£80k a week and I think there will be plenty of clubs who would give him nearer that than us. I wouldn't be happy if we broke our strict wage structure for Joe Hart as you'd be looking at about £40k a week tops.}


9.) 15 Jul 2020 21:47:30
He's not worth breaking the structure for, I can't believe we're taking risks on such an important position. How likely is it ed? Scale of 1-10.

{Ed007's Note - I'd probably say a 3 or 4 mate, I just don't see it happening - mostly due to money - and I think Celtic's interest is being highly exaggerated by the media and fan forums. There was contact with Hart's people the other week to sound them out but since then I don't know of any further talks between them.}


10.) 15 Jul 2020 22:14:38
If I'm honest I'd much rather Marshall over Hart and he would command much cheaper wages too. Can't really see Celtic coughing up £40,000 for wages on a goalkeeper either so hopefully he turns down the terms offered and finds somewhere else to go.

{Ed007's Note - Marshall's best days are behind him too imo.}


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2020 22:23:49
Scored twice in a friendly for Dunfermline against Spartans tonight a matter of hours after signing for them.

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01 Aug 2020 00:41:25
He started in the French Cup Final for PSG tonight so doubt he’ll end up at us.

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23 Jul 2020 21:47:36
Fry was happy to tell the media he had informed Celtic they had accepted a bid but refused to say who the club that had bid for him was. No doubt he is trying to start a bidding war. I’d avoid dealing with Fry at all costs.

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10 Jul 2020 13:20:33
We can’t hang about for Forster to see what options he has. Our season starts in 3 weeks and we need a first choice keeper. Bain is a good back up for me but not a number 1. I’d love us to sign big Forster but if he’s dragging his heels we need to move on.

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02 Jul 2020 21:25:09
I’m hoping to see Kerr McInroy in and around the first team squad. Was progressing really well before a bad injury. Hopefully now he’s fit his progress will continue.

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25 Aug 2020 07:22:00
As does Nick 👍🏻.

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13 Aug 2020 11:23:43
Let’s just focus on beating Reykjavik and take it from there.

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29 Jul 2020 15:35:20
Alexander? Just to wind up Shay Logan.

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19 Jul 2020 16:12:08
I had a chuckle to myself as at one point you could blatantly hear Lenny shouting at him “Boli where are you going” 😂😂.

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16 Jul 2020 23:15:10
Ed he mentions that when Griff was told to do fitness work during lockdown he said he couldn’t as he was injured. That doesn’t sound great to me. Sounds like a poor attitude on Griffs part.

Ice Man