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19 Oct 2017 18:39:09
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19 Oct 2017 18:31:22
Reality check guys. We are playing the best and BR has every right to play the best he has available AND in the style he likes. I don't want Celtic to park the bus away from home, we did this before and still got beat. Before first game with PSG, we would have taken 3rd place, so what's changed? Don't listen to BT and BBC p####d. Hail, hail.

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19 Oct 2017 18:22:33
Going to raise a point here but was wondering what the view was of Kennedy as defensive coach.?

I wasn't sure about him under RD was surprised a wee bit when he stayed but our defence is still our issue and has been for a while.
Now Toure involved I think it's a step in right direction but I think we need to move big John along as despite the injuries we should be doing the basics, better.

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19 Oct 2017 15:30:38
I love Celtic being in the CL and I don't expect Celtic to win most of the CL games but i do expect some better performances from our players - we gave the ball away far to easy and the goals came from set plays. That said we will only improve under Brendan.

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19 Oct 2017 16:29:31
Thats what a lot of people don't understand imo mate, is that we are playing teams who play the same brand of football as us, but with squads 100 times better than us, they make us look average, as we do to every team domestically.

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19 Oct 2017 15:16:24
lads, just signed up today to give my thoughts and opinions, as I have been on this reading some of your comments from the transfer window until now. I agree with most of u on some of your comments at times but we always have to stick behind our team and manager.

Rodgers is doing the best he can with the team he has, he might not always get it right but he's 100% the right man for the job we never get an easy group in the champions league, I can remember reading 1 of your comments saying use hope for the likes of psg and real in our group then we got psg and they hammered us then use complain lol I was hoping for the easiest draw possible as we always get the toughest group.

If use look at how Leicester city had a good run in the champions league they got it easy enough avoiding all the heavys and got knocked out by Athletico Madrid in quarters. But we're more suited for europa league this season next season Rodgers will get it right, we run in europa after Christmas with a new cb i'll be happy even tho some of use will have something bad to say still.

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19 Oct 2017 16:44:18
Realistically we're going to perhaps qualify for last 16 every 4/ 5 years or so.

The money rolls in for making the groups and we know we can't compare financially to teams like bayern so will enevitably be pumped with the odd draw or win along the way.

I'm comfortable with that so long as we Continue to dominate at home.

Listening to Rob McLean on commentary last night and sutton for that matter, getting tore in every 30 seconds about the score an how it could get worse etc, literally gave me the boak.

Reading the BBC post-mortem on it was equally as howfin.

They bask in us losing in champions league, as if we shouldn't bother turning up after qualification.

Yet when we fail to qualify they're all over us for being a poor side.

Fans getting on the gaffer's back after a defeat to bayern, are as bad as these goons, if not worse.

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19 Oct 2017 13:35:06
Reading the posts and banter about Gordon, Ntcham, Gamboa etc. etc. and very few are pointing the blame at Brendan. he picks them. He seems he'll bent on playing big Ntcham when the fellas obviously struggling a bit and even allowing for injuries to go to Munich with a makeshift defence was criminal. How Ntcham and Gamboa came out for the second half is beyond me. SA was nowhere near fit and at this level you need all 11 to be at it. If the word is correct Brendan has clout in the corridors of CP. Time to rattle a few cages and demand funds to strengthen this team. The summer signings have taken us backwards but as always we never seem to strengthen from a position of power. I feel it's make or break time regarding where we want to be. Domestic dominance is paramount for me but we can't continue to put dross performances like that in year in year out.

{Ed007's Note - So without spending obscene amounts of money that we don't have how do we compete with teams like PSG and Bayern?
And if you have an answer for that you should contact clubs like Accies or Hibs to tell them how they can compete with Celtic as it's basically the same thing.}

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19 Oct 2017 14:15:13
That's okay if it was 3-0 against a club nearer our stature.
Nothing unexpected about being beaten 0-3 away at bm (or 0-5 at home against psg) .
We can't compete with their spending.
I agree tho that as a team playing in the cl 2 years running and looking to be in el after Christmas and cl next season we should not have a makeshift ANYTHING. Seems we have overinvested in the midfield for a decade to the detriment of our defence and forward line.
As much as I like him I don't think we can start with Sinclair in tough European games. The guy cannot defend. Play someone who can and if the scores are close bring him on for the last 20.
Apart from weak goals I am not too disappointed. I will be if we go into another season with a makeshift ANYTHING.

{Ed007's Note - Good post mate. I remember a time not so long ago on here when people - not you specifically, Digi, I don't know if you were one of them - were adamant that results in the CL didn't matter as long as we're in there and collecting the money.
Now it's a disaster to some people if we lose away to Bayern Munich.}

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19 Oct 2017 14:17:50
Ed . point taken but I'm not expecting to compete with your PSGs and Bayern of this world maybe be a bit stronger and put up a better show. A full strength team probably wouldn't have got a result but with our resources albeit pocket money compared to the elite we should be able to call on better than Gamboa and Ntcham. I can understand how other clubs fans gloat at our expense but our concern we can only look after ourselves and part of my point is if we do TIAR then as a club we have to decide what our priorities are when we reach the CL groups and I appreciate it would be suicidal to go mad with the dosh as a certain Scottish club once did . God rest them.

{Ed007's Note - But you're still not explaining how we should 'put up a better show' against some of the best teams in the world? Would Lustig at RB with Sviatchenko or Bitton at CB got us a draw?
Seeing Gamboa and Ntcham seem to be your fall guys, I think KT was just as bad as Gamboa. Stuart Armstrong once again proved what everyone with any sense and a pair of eyes knows, that he's not and never will be a No.10, Sinclair might as well stayed at home to watch Corrie with his Mrs and LG proved again that he struggles at the higher CL levels.
The only 2 players I'd give pass marks to last night were Boyata and Roberts.
Do you think challenging for the CL should be one of our priorities?}

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19 Oct 2017 14:40:52
Jesus wept, talk about fans on here being out of touch with reality, Everyone on here that thinks we can compete with these teams should be sectioned asap, We will never compete with these clubs due to finances, Even if the defence was full strength we wouldve got tonked, They are 3rd favorites to win it, i've noticed the ones that were against the europa as its beneath them, are the same ones that are first on here spouting dross, You want the moon on a stick.

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19 Oct 2017 15:18:45
EBTs?

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19 Oct 2017 15:56:40
Your right ed, the goalposts have moved in the CL in the last 2-3 years, the best are now light years away and we can't catch up due to their considerable spending and the gap is getting bigger.
Only a few years ago a 4m player would have done a good turn for us in the CL now he is a very average player, u need a 100m player to make a difference now.
Our prize is just getting there and while results won't matter too much we have to look long term and see improvement in our team and if we get Europa league then its been achieved.
Getting to the last 16 whilst not impossible should be out of our minds for the foreseeable future unless something changes or we get an amazing draw.
It puts into perspective how well Lennon did to get there and he used to get pelters on here for the embarrassing defeats lol.

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19 Oct 2017 16:04:36
Hi Ed.

Have to agree with you here. I said it before and after the draw was made and the game against PSG. Celtic unfortunately don't have the finance to compete with the big team like PSG and Bayern. I would love if we could but our top transfer cost 4.5 million and PSG have a front three of close to 500 million. And unfortunately the results like these will happen to us and some teams in pot 3 and pot 4. Just look at how many big scorelines there have been so far in this year tournament.

The lads are trying there best but unfortunately class will rise to the top at this level. This is like us in the spl. We are miles ahead and have the quality to do the same to most if not all teams in the spl. I fully understand everyone being annoyed and upset with these result but we just can't compete against the top teams in Europe. The money divide is just too vast.

People have to remember that last week there were posts praising gambo and nitham and this week they are getting slated. One team is dundee and this is the mighty Bayern.

Brendan is trying he best against massive odds and the fact is we are still third and can still be in Europe after Christmas. Anyone who was thinking we could compete for anything other than third in this group needs to have a look at the financial power against us.

In Brendan we trust.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on, Oscar.}

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19 Oct 2017 16:46:45
its not even the naymars and the robbens. its was the amazing midfielder at PSG they subbed before the end and the 2 guys on the left wing and one of the goal scorers for bm, I admit I'm not up on world football, a bit celtic blinkered, but I had never heard of these guys and they are WORLD CLASS.

even near the end they brought on Hames!

its a different world from us. many people slag off lustig in here, I think he's descent, but he's never been a centre back in his puff and playing him there is asking for trouble. Gamboa is quick. and the 2 on the wing were strolling past him - that's the step up in quality we are up against.

So not disappointed, saying the goals were avoidable just meant they would have scored another way. We just aren't good enough at that level.

Our mission last year was to be better than BMG - this year we have to be better than Anderleicht and that is the progress we are hoping for.

But we can't not recruit a centre back and 1 in 1 out and a permanent decent striker. guess we will just get a couple of midfielders tho. lol.

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19 Oct 2017 16:56:02
Some of what im reading baffles outta me.
Undefeated so far in league AGAIN, semi final on saturday the domestic dominant juggernaut rolls on.
Champs league? let's get real bhoys (all i looked for in the draw was where the next party was going to be) . Beating Anderlecht away was a great result our euro campaign was always going to come down to a 2 legged affair and job half done.
Domestic dominance and europa after xmas and it will be a great season .

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19 Oct 2017 17:32:24
I think all the ones going on about competing with the big boys are missing the point, that's three games where there were occasions of bad passing, even against Anderlecht at the start they, well certain players, couldn't find a team mate, it's all well and good going on about a better class of team, and PSG and Bayern, are that, but there is something fundamentally wrong when you can't even make an easy pass, I can't remember them making so many bad passes in last year's CL.

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19 Oct 2017 11:58:55
Celtic thrashed Oldco 7-1 on this day in 1957s league cup final at Hampden.

{Ed007's Note -

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19 Oct 2017 13:27:02
ED007 thanks for putting up that link to cheer us up after last night.
Can I ask a favour, please can you put up the clip of the song on youtube "hampden in the sun- Celtic 7 the rangers 1"

{Ed007's Note - This one?

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19 Oct 2017 15:58:25
Cheers ED007 the one I saw on youtube had the lyrics but this one is just as good, there are a few on there from different artists. I hope the younger element on here enjoyed a wee walk down memory lane to show what Celtic are.

{Ed007's Note - Is it that one?}

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19 Oct 2017 10:58:57
ED001/ ED007 which ever EDitor is about.
Can one of you explain the Loaning of players procedure.
Reason I am asking is that I read that Plymouth are thinking of cancelling Cifcti's loan with them and returning player to Celtic.
I was under the impression that these loans formed part of a contract ie the recipient club agreeing to take player for 6 months/ a year depending on length of loan.
Can Plymouth simply just tear up this loan agreement because of player's poor form.

{Ed007's Note - A loan deal can be cancelled at any time during the season if both clubs concerned agree.}

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19 Oct 2017 10:33:42
I do not have BT (pay for sly and refuse to pay extra for BT also) so had to rely on radio and BBC Shortbread and 5 Live. First thing that I noticed was absolute joy in that t! t Tom English's voice on how Bayern "gave us a doing" switched to 5Live and then had to endure "Proddy" Forsyth who was having an orgasm on air describing "how poor Celtic were"
Then I heard that Craigan of Motherwell and Logan of Aberdeen were tweeting their delight at us getting beat, they must have really short memories as both their clubs benefit to the sum of £375,000 BECAUSE Celtic are in the Champions League group stages, but I guess their bigotry trumps that.

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19 Oct 2017 11:57:31
I listened on the radio as well and was whatsapping a friend in Munich at the same time, who was watching on TV, Tom English came across as pro Celtic compared to the way she was describing it, but then again she is a Munich supporter.

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19 Oct 2017 12:05:57
Timalloy spot on. let's see how the club chairmen react if one year the money Celtic earn for them isn't there. Next season they get £400k for this sessons qualification. that's 10% of motherwells turnover. no one else is going to qualify so without Celtic they get hee haw.

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19 Oct 2017 13:46:11
Tim someone on here will have bt sports, should swap bud, give them your sky go details and swap them for bt sports that you can watch on laptop, i've been doing that with my mate for a while now since i got rid of sky.

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19 Oct 2017 14:23:53
I'd be happy to swap with you Tim that way we both get both for the price of one.

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19 Oct 2017 15:17:06
@jmac - you’ll probably find all chairmen don’t budget for the potential windfall. I mean Celtic don’t even gamble and buy players until you have qualified.
And is the money not supposed to be used for youth development?

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19 Oct 2017 10:01:48
Thoughts on last night:
Didn’t expect a result. We were playing a European powerhouse with endless talent.
However disappointed in the way we conceded our goals. We simply can’t defend. Injuries to Jozo (and Erik) didn’t help. We really should have signed a CB in the summer – there is no excuses for why we didn’t! Must be a priority come January.
We looked much better with Dembele, Forrest and Rogic on the park. Rogic is stronger than Armstrong and can take the ball on the turn. Paddy is by far the better player and done well on the ball but Forrest quicker and more direct, and overall more suited to the game last night. Dembele created a couple opportunities once he came on and his physical presence made a big difference.

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19 Oct 2017 12:10:36
NC its more than a centre half. On the 2nd goal they had 3 men free with no celtic player within 5 yarfs of any of them. A new centre back can't do much when thst happens. The entire defensive set up must be wrong. Has been for years but agree we need better defenders. Gamboa got ripped to shreds so at this level we are mince but badly organised at the back.

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19 Oct 2017 15:31:02
I agree mate. We need to strengthen in a few areas, just CB should be our priority.

RB is another position as you mentioned. Gamboa got roasted and Lustig is getting on, so that's def another area that needs looked at.

If we could get another Wanyama type player in the middle of the park, would be great for these tough CL games.

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19 Oct 2017 07:53:51
I think its time McGregor gets a run in the team and actually keeps his place. He's been our best midfielder when he's played this season, but gets dropped for big games. I think ntcham needs dropped and should fight to get back into the team. He started very well this season but his level has really dropped. Especially on big CL nights. Gets caught on the ball and struggles with the basics. Dunno if it's going to take him a while to adjust from playing at Man City development level. Lots complaining that McGregor should be starting for Scotland, yet he rarely starts for us!

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19 Oct 2017 08:32:00
He's better than ntcham that's for sure but think the bhoy needs time. think January might be a busy month right back and cb a necessity if we want to compete in europa.

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19 Oct 2017 10:06:55
Aye I think he'll be good. Just needs to sharpen up a bit. I'd like to see Ajer get game time, given no reason not to trust him.

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19 Oct 2017 10:23:28
Too right. January needs to be a busy month. Crying out for a right back and someone to play along side Dedryk.

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19 Oct 2017 10:41:57
I could understand BR playing Ntcham and Brown to protect our fragile defence but once again in Europe there was a nervousness and fear (not only from the young guys) that contributed to our poor performance and defeat.
All three goals were from static defending and basic errors and the inability to keep the ball at this level is lethal.
Ntcham does seem to struggle at this level but he is still learning, while guys like Gordon Lustig and Sinclair have little or no excuse and have all been under par all season.
Broony looked off the pace as he recovers from injury and for all LG's quality - the lone striker role is not his forte in tough CL away games where support is well nigh zero.

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