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17 Feb 2019 11:29:52
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16 Feb 2019 08:52:07
Bhoys, here we go again.
We show a bit of progress on the domestic front and everyone is full of praise for our team. Then we come up against a very decent European side and we're found wanting. It's the way it is. It's what happens. So many of you seem to be taking it as a personal insult so let me make it clear to all.

we are a strong team domestically but we are weak on the European front.
I am as passionate about Celtic as any of you, but I realise that we have our limitations on the bigger scale so please stop yapping like school kids when we take on a much higher level of opposition.

Do I wish we were more competitive? Yes I do, but we are where we are in the grand scheme of things. The days of 1967 are long gone, we have no automatic entitlement to anything on the European scene. Everything is as it is so let's focus on the things we can influence and forget the stuff we can't. Whatever replies you want to make are fine but please stop saying our club is in the doldrums. Be a true Celtic fan and support the club more than you criticise it. HH.

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16 Feb 2019 11:04:07
Strachan got us to the last 16 of the champions League (twice) with Telfer Caldwell McManus Naylor in defence.

Almost beat a world class AC Milan side in last 16

So why can't we play better in Europe?

Nobody is talking about winning it but actually us showing some level of ability

Right now we play like a part time team in Europe, we look lost at that level, despite the fact we have done better with worse squads of players.

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16 Feb 2019 11:09:25
I agree with most of what you say there bobthecat, but I wouldn't exactly say we were weak in Europe as we reached the knockout stages of EL. I'd say that was average. Don't forget we knocked out Leipzig and no one says they are a weak team, far from it.
It's clear though we need a couple of quality additions to be more consistent in how we play, and we need our best 11 available and on form or we struggle against the very good sides.

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16 Feb 2019 13:46:17
isleogreen I remember thinking that after Zenit last season; one or two quality additions might give us that extra edge to go a wee bit further. Now look at us a year on and we're still in the same position. Even with the players we have we there is no excuse for the lack of courage on Thursday, which sadly is becoming the norm. IMO under Strachan we would have won that game, Lennon probably a toss up but Thursday was like watching a Deila team in Europe.

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16 Feb 2019 15:01:14
Kevbhoy it's true since Deila era we have produced many technically great players but mentality is gone.

The wide open way we play is simply ridiculous.

To play this style you need a massive amount of quality in the squad at this level.

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16 Feb 2019 21:25:55
Valencia are far from a top side. If it was Napoli that we lost to I’d say fair enough but Valencia away from home are bang average. They draw loads of games and away they rarely win.
We made this stage down to good fortune with Rosenborg let’s not kid ourselves. We lost 3/ 4 against the better sides in our group, we lost to AEK the worst side in the Champions league group stages. We have suffered our biggest defeat in our history at home to PSG and away to Barcelona in group stage and have won a solitary match in group stage under Rodgers.
He was piss poor with Liverpool in Champions league not even getting through the group stages.
If Lennon managed us in Champions League or in Europa there would never be a flat mediocre performance if we lost it’s because the opposition were of a high standard.
Valencia played about 5/ 10 and beat us, we were about 2/ 10 it was like watching a Scottish Championship game in 1st half the standard was so bad, neither team could string 3 passes together, they were there for the taking and as always we bottled it! Yeah we were missing key players but so were they and with our best team we have failed time and again in continental competition under Brendan. We have literally had 1 great performance all season in Europe.
Bring back Lennon IMO.

{Ed007's Note - If they bring back Lennon I'm chucking doing this site.}

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16 Feb 2019 22:17:22
Great post GGGG. Rodgers only won a single game for Liverpool in the groups and it was from a 90 min penalty

Dropped into Europa League and lost at same stage we are at now. That's with English money. So the money excuses can drop now.

He's a good manager at dominating with superior players but not so good at tactics outside of just possession.

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16 Feb 2019 23:17:45
I reckon we’ll qualify this week and beat Valencia away. Then we can congratulate the team for reaching the last 16, but still recognize we’re going backwards.

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17 Feb 2019 05:15:45
Get rid of Brendan and bring Lennon back?

Seriously?

Turn it up you lot eh?

The guy has done wonders at our club since he came in, won every trophy on the bounce.

Yes, his record in Europe is poor (with Celtic and Liverpool)

He's still learning also, I understand the frustration, I feel it to.

But hopefully he learns from this, gets some quality additions in the summer and cracks on with it as we all hope he will.

But to say bin the manager after all he's done in his time here, well that is simply ludicrous.

Realise where we are right now and stop acting like spoilt brats.

We've had I too good domestically over the years and it seems a few have overlooked that and just want more and more.

Be grateful for what we have right now please.

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17 Feb 2019 06:39:47
Nobody’s saying Rodgers is a bad manager far from it domestically he has been truely outstanding and in no way do I think Lennon is the answer he had his time and left hopefully Rodgers stays for however long he likes they are left Wondering tho if rodgers has a plan B when we don’t have Possesion and teams play the high press on us, right now the answer is no. you have to change your tactics to try and beat your opposition especially in Europe over in knock out format if they team are Better standard than you and alter your principles slightly to ultimately achieve the goal of progression in cup competitions. I’m hoping for an early goal to give us a chance on Thursdays game but IMO today’s game is more important and Europe as much as it frustrates me at times will always play second fiddle to domestic affairs.

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15 Feb 2019 14:43:47
Do you know anything about this meeting Lawwell had with the UEFA guys yesterday? I wonder what that was all about?

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16 Feb 2019 08:54:23
Probably a lot less sinister than you would like it to be.
We were beaten.
End of. HH.

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16 Feb 2019 13:55:07
I'm not sure I get what you mean by "as sinister as I would hope". I haven't thought anything sinister about it. More hopeful that they may have been discussing some sort of new European competition, with us being involved, or something similar. Nothing sinister.

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16 Feb 2019 18:33:43
Maybe about hosting a final.

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16 Feb 2019 23:30:57
Ah yeah, that's a possibility I hadn't thought about. That'd be great for the club if it was that.

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15 Feb 2019 12:39:59
If Emilio Izaguirre is on that park for the return we will be SLAUGHTERED it shouldn't be down to one man but our left back is hopeless and it reverberates throughout our team especially the rest of our back four Scott Sinclair must be sick of the runs he makes hoping for a return to run on to,

I have been saying for years Izzy is no where near the player he was when he FIRST arrived Johnny Hayes played out his skin on Sunday I honestly have never ever seen a left back who stands still after passing a ball so much as Izaguirre does, don't give me show me your medals, izzy is a passenger Bigtime But Brendan doesn't seem to get it, thanks Chrisbhoy, Tiny Tim, etc. for getting it.

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15 Feb 2019 14:34:00
wee Man has lost it his legs are away. Said Hayes should have started same as old firm game at Ibrox when Rodgers played McGregor there instead don’t get it. Rodgers needs to shoulder some of the blame for his tactics and team selection tbh Izzy isn’t greatest when fully fit why play a half fit left back over Hayes mental he also doesn’t know how to deal with a high press need a change of system for Europe if that’s tactics of opposition.

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15 Feb 2019 15:29:24
Aye like it's izzys fault. That's the players the board choose to recruit. We should aim for better instead we have Izzy and Hayes.

Hayes isn't good enough either, neither is hendry etc but is it their fault Celtic sign them?

That's the level we choose to sign which means it's the level we choose to be at.

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15 Feb 2019 15:35:05
Izzy is finished at that level nut last night what on earth was boyata doing way up the park and jozo steps up how the he'll in that split second can Izzy react he was outpaced at the 2nd goal but boyata never exactly burst a hut to stop the cross and broony missed a 50 50 no like him so it wasn't all Izzy fault.

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15 Feb 2019 01:28:16
Same old problems. We literally have it wrong from top to bottom.

1. Someone said earlier we need to decrease costs. This squad clearly needs more investment, serious investment. Not projects, otherwise we would be as well not taking part in Europe.

2. Rodgers style, possession is based on dominating a team. That's ok when you have better players than the opposition.

We don't and therefore we are throwing games in Europe.

3. The players don't have the quality or mentality. Some are too young and naive. Others past it. No between.

4. We have regressed in quality and by choice, not necessity. Our revenue has been higher than Valencia recently. Yet we persist on acting like a pub team.

Many seem happy with that and now we are merely a domestic level side at best.

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15 Feb 2019 10:11:04
The board clearly don't trust Rodgers with signings imo as look at guys like commper, Hayes, Hendry, eboue, Gamboa etc etc they are all crap. Serious money has been wasted on these players and dermot will never back any manager enough to make a difference in Europe. Celtic just a stepping stone selling club now that's the sad reality.

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15 Feb 2019 12:11:55
We do need a cull in the playing staff and better quality brought in more so in defence sadly apart from KT we need a full defence because no investment there in the past what 3 years? . The system we use not working in Europe and don't seem to change it. But apart from the stupidest of mistakes by some of the players constantly same ones I thought we held our own and on another day it could have been different just stop the stupid passing and predictable passing.

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15 Feb 2019 12:40:25
Rodgers signings may been poor but really we have been signing duds for years before Rodgers.

The structure at the club is wrong.

Tyson hit the nail on the head. It's a harsh reality that we have chosen this way as a club.

I'd like to see us blend between Rodgers style with a physical style. Find a medium between the both.

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15 Feb 2019 12:42:43
I got plenty of abuse for being "negative" on here, when I was simply being honest and realistic.

But I was unfortunately proven right last night. I don't even want to criticise players individually it's not their fault we recruit projects for that level.

We are below the level we could be at and it's by the boards choice. We have it too easy domestically.

Sooner 10 in a row is done and dusted the better. That's all they can hide behind now.

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15 Feb 2019 14:46:46
I’ve got one thing to say to all of the above posts, ‘pish’.

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15 Feb 2019 14:59:56
Again tesla, we’ll done on ‘being right’.

Must give you a fuzzy glow inside predicting all this blatantly inevitable scenarios.

Nostratesla.

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15 Feb 2019 15:32:50
I am right though.

Are any of you two above suggesting we are heading in the right direction to improve as a club?

Is the level Celtic is at now acceptable to you?

If so fair enough, but for me I'd demand better

Accepting mediocrity at a club this size is ridiculous to me.

If we want to be a domestic side only we could do it spending half the money we do now.

Have a starting eleven of the best SPL and youth players and we could win the SPL.

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15 Feb 2019 17:12:04
The reality is things have changed. Scottish football is not highly regarded in and out of Scotland. It's not entirely the board or BRs fault so reality check is needed. Until we as a nation start promoting the best our game had to offer instead of just taking sky peanut money and talking down our game club and national level things won't change. We should be applauding the direction we have taken in bringing in the best young talent we can attract whom otherwise we would never see. This is the reality, we are better than last night and we have all witnessed this. I don't think after one game against champions league level opponents with bags of experience and a newly signed £40 million pound striker is a rationale comparison. We can and will do better as much as I am dissapointed with last night it's not the time to throw toys out the pram. This team beat Man U twice this season.

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15 Feb 2019 18:53:02
Yes Telsa you are right. A right ****.

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15 Feb 2019 20:30:27
Excellent mark. That's the input from all the happy clappers.

No input other than insults. Nothing worthy to add.

Because to even attempt to defend not even the result but the performance last night would be futile.

It's not good enough. We have got gradually worse since Rodgers came in.

We are on a decline and need better. People like you do nothing but insult me for stating facts and not being green tinted specs about everything.

Last night was terrible and not even a surprise yet another tame performance in Europe. One of many over the last 4 or 5 seasons.

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16 Feb 2019 00:31:48
You are forgetting we have had a lot of bad luck with injuries this season Tesla. That team that played Valencia would not have been our best 11 players if luck and circumstances had gone our way. The January signings/ loanees have just been asked to step up to the plate for a big game in Europe which might not have happened if our treatment rooms hadn’t been so busy this season.

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16 Feb 2019 00:37:22
Good shout Kwaj. As I’ve said before, we need to stop subscribing to SKY and BT as this only helps to widen the gap between us and Europe’s elite.

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16 Feb 2019 01:43:47
Ok cowbig you are right and the rest of us are all wrong then? ok then defend the signings of hendry, Hayes, gamboa, Marvin, eboue and musonda etc etc as you are the fountain of knowledge on all things Celtic tell us why we are wrong then?

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16 Feb 2019 11:07:26
Gedceltic even with our best starting 11 I don't think we would beat Valencia.

Again though it doesn't change what I say, if our backup players are so bad we require emergency loans in January cos of injuries

Then it shows our squad depth is huge but empty of talent.

We have had to rotate the squad due to how many games we play and lots of times even domestically we have dropped points doing this.

Proving we need to get our finger out and improve the squad.

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16 Feb 2019 14:35:04
Find it difficultto see how we are going backwards under Rodgers considering wehave an unprecedented double treble (possible trebletreble) and an invincible season. Allo of which was achieved after the mighty rangers came back to the spfl and not before. Yes in Europe we have progressed further on occasion but when you consider that we now have an extra preliminary round to negotiate and the difficulty to attract good seasoned professionals to Scotland it is understandable. We can attract young good so called projects on loan to be developped which is to their advantage and ours (short term) and then developping our own youth as it is clear to see tat some of our better players have come throuth our youth system.
Whilst it is difficult to admit I don't believe Celtic will ever achieve its full potential, considering the size of club it is, whilst its domestic football is Scotland solets just enjoy our domestic dominance because without that we wouldn't even be talking aout european football.

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16 Feb 2019 15:09:45
Donjim it's the style as well. In Scotland playing possession is perfect because we have better players than anyone else

In Europe we don't but still try to play attacking even against PSG or whatever. It's ridiculous as we have a weak squad compared to them.

That's like st. Mirren trying to attack us or dominate possession

As for rangers, they may technically be back, however it's no exactly true as they aren't close to the level they once where.

If they were we would have lost the league last season and currently be second this year based on average PTS back in the day.

So even domestically the full story isn't clear.

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16 Feb 2019 18:48:05
I still think BR is the man for the job but I also think we have massively under invested in defence we could probably make a full team out of the amount of midfielders we have on our books and the loan signings good players but to many don't know if any of that is Brendan fault but we do need better quality for Europe never now going to win it but I think we could or should be aiming for last 16 CL or quarter final in Europa on a regular basis.

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14 Feb 2019 17:42:25

Celtic XI v Valencia: Bain; Toljan, Boyata, Simunovic, Izaguirre; Brown, McGregor; Forrest, Christie, Sinclair; Burke.

Subs: Gordon, Hayes, Edouard, Lustig, Weah, Ajer, Johnston

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14 Feb 2019 18:46:31
Good to see Izzy back.

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14 Feb 2019 18:55:08
Strong bench.

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14 Feb 2019 20:54:07
I knew before the game Izzy would be a weak link, and the first half has proved so. Gave the ball to them constantly (although not the only one but keeps playing deeper than the rest of the defence, u can’t keep doing that to decent sides. And of these are a changed side, they are still a top side.

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14 Feb 2019 23:25:33
Izzy was the weakest link tonight, If Celtic bought Toiljan, Burke, Weah and Benkovic would they be stronger in Europe.

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15 Feb 2019 07:33:18
Brown had a poor 1st half. I didn't see the second half due to work commitments.

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14 Feb 2019 14:01:57
I'll be pleasantly surprised if we go through over the 2 legs against Valencia. If it's a close battle instead of another humiliation at the hands of a very decent European team then that would be great. I will of course be cheering us on and hoping for the best, we are playing pretty well at the moment, our attack and defence seem to be gelling well and on our day we'll give anyone a decent game. Valencia are nobody's mugs though, they have lost fewer games this season than Real Madrid and are a flippin decent team so we need to be very wary. If we can avoid our early goal disease then who knows? HH.

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14 Feb 2019 16:31:53
Keep the faith! I think it will be 2 hard games for both teams, but I believe we can do it. To all the Celtic fans who are going to the game sing your hearts out and cheer on our great club win lose or draw! Hopefully win of course 🤞.

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14 Feb 2019 17:17:00
Good shout Mick, the fans have a big part to play tonight.

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13 Feb 2019 16:13:24
Kt apparently been ruled out.

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13 Feb 2019 16:34:30
Injured again or just not 100% match fit?

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13 Feb 2019 19:24:25
Think he's just not played mate.

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10 Feb 2019 12:15:38

Celtic XI v St Johnstone: Bain; Toljan, Boyata, Simunovic, Hayes; Brown, McGregor; Forrest, Christie, Sinclair; Burke.

Subs: Gordon, Bitton, Ntcham, Edouard, Lustig, Weah, Ajer.

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10 Feb 2019 12:21:10
What's happening with bayo could have been an ideal game for a debut.

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10 Feb 2019 12:22:58
I find the fact that Bayo does not make the bench is strange ready to make his enterence Wednesday now nowhere near.

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10 Feb 2019 12:28:02
He is not in European squad.

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10 Feb 2019 12:30:04
Why give him game time ahead of Eddy before valencia? Hell be fine for the league games but need to give game time to those in the euro squad.

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10 Feb 2019 12:31:33
Good to see forest and Édouard back. How longs Izzy out for? A bit wary of Hayes at lb.

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10 Feb 2019 12:38:15
Bench: Ntcham, Edouard, Weah.

The time will come when we will marvel at that.

Hail and indeed Hail again bhoys and ghirls.

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10 Feb 2019 12:43:14
I like Hayes. He's definitely turning into our new Nir Biton. Got a lot of respect for any player that shows up in the manager's plans out of position--but a winger moreover. He could definitely see more game time in his more accustomed roles and I'd like to see what he's got. He was great against celtic almost every time I saw him before the move.

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10 Feb 2019 13:03:10
I hope Bayo being left out is purely because he's unavailable for Thursday and BR is looking to give game time to others.

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10 Feb 2019 23:41:25
I think its more to do with us having europa on thursday so eddy getting some game time before it . plus bayo is playing for the reserves 2moro against falkirk . that's probably better for him at this stage as he should get more minutes on the park
Hail hail.

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11 Feb 2019 19:20:44
Cavalcanti I know what u mean but that line had me in tears honestly. he's our new nir bitton! 🤣🤣🤣u say that as if it’s a good thing! Lol. that was a belter 😆😆.

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14 Feb 2019 23:29:55
LOL Lh88. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Yes its a dreadful line and shows where my expectations are. Both brutal, but they give it all.

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08 Feb 2019 07:28:09
Gutman going to Jim McGuiness new team Charlotte Independence.

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06 Feb 2019 18:30:30

Celtic XI v Hibs: Bain; Toljan, Boyata, Simunovic, Izaguirre; Brown, McGregor; Weah, Christe, Sinclair; Burke.

Subs: Gordon, Bitton, Bayo, Hayes, Lustig, Henderson, Johnston.

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06 Feb 2019 18:35:27
Good to see Bayo on the bench hopefully get the game wrapped up early and see what he’s got.

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06 Feb 2019 18:45:29
Like the look of the side tonight. Great to see bayo on the subs. Might get to see him tonight as some stage. Amazing when u think what not available.

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